[quote=desmond]Flu, not everybody wants, or can be an engineer. Some people are realistic that does not mean they are going to quit or be a loser cleaning toilets. Your an engineer, great, get over trying to promote it as the end all. As Judge Small says, the world needs ditch diggers.[/quote]
And that brings be to my to another thread about whether unemployment should be extended. (You probably don’t think it should either)…
But I’m at loss to think on one hand folks saying they can’t find jobs and how unemployment should be extended and at the other at the mere suggestion of doing “have you considered doing XXX”, there’s like a several reasons for why folks say they can’t do/try XXX…
I don’t doubt folks can’t find a job in their profession XYZ. But what I don’t get if XYZ isn’t producing any results, I don’t get why the mere suggestion of trying something else is approached with almost like negative-reenforcement that switching to “XXX” isn’t produce any better results because outsourcing, shrinking budgets, recession is going to hit there too, (name your reason here not to consider that option).
It’s almost as if folks are saying it’s so bad everywhere there’s no point to switching to do something else, even if clearly continuing to look for XYZ isn’t working. excuses after excuses of why that is bound to fail too (even before the attempt is made)..It’s just a very interesting mindset…It’s just seems like folks have given up even before trying.
I guess since everything is going to be outsourced and move overseas, than we can all just stop going to school and just live off the land..And since we’re just going to be farmers, there’s no need reason to learn how to read..Let’s just all be illiterate and unlearned (lucky ones can be trust fund kiddies)…
So let’s put this in perspective.
1)Accounting is now done overseas (hey, it’s just math)
2)Radiology is now done overseas (hey, if 1 in 1000 patients get misdiagnosed, it still works out for the insurance company to pay for that 1 person screwed versus cost saved from hiring someone overseas)
3)No need to farm here ,since it’s obviously cheaper to grow tainted food and ship them here than it is to grow them here, and since truth in labeling is a farce anyway
4)If no one’s going to college, no need for professors
That leaves us…..Government Jobs!!!!!!!!!!!Hmmm…Maybe folks are on to something….
I guess it’s just a different mindset. When I was growing up, there was a clear distinction in what one would like to do versus one practically should be doing to make a living…So for example, while I wanted to be an physics major, practicality was that I wouldn’t be able to find a decent career out of it to choose that major. On the other hand, it just seems like the opposite happens a lot in which folks choose something because they “like it”, without consideration of whether it can be economically sustainable. Engineering is a posterchild of this anti-practicality, in that while it’s probably a more practical thing that doesn’t get any glory whatsoever, it doesn’t take THAT much guruness to do OK, and yet it’s the one that very few Americans ever consider… It’s a different situation if you are a Trump and have the luxury of living off of family wealth and want to major in some obscure degree or something like that. But for the remaining 90% of the population, that isn’t feasible….
…At any rate, the benefits have been extended so a lot of folks can delay an inevitable painful decision for another couple of months….
You’re right in that in this world, some people have no choice but to be dig ditchers. But, I think often times, people walk themselves into the ditch digging business because they think they can’t do anything else or it’s bad everywhere else, so why bother. I really don’t give a flying fvck about enginerds/eginerding itself. What really bothers me is that it just seems like as a country we’ve given up on everything that mattered, and almost self-fulfilling prophecy of failure. What ever happened to the do or die attitude that once was prevalent in America? Is it really a lost cause?