[quote=jpinpb]CAR and BG – That’s been my experience and observations as well. I’m almost starting to think the subservient aspect is a myth. They’re running the show.[/quote]

Well, I have to agree with some of those statements about “maintenance” some of the imports that might have misconstrued of needing “Honda” level service…It was just that…misconstrued…As Nissan has proved with the GTR, it is entirely possible to have an import ridiculous levels of maintenance that rivals other brands, and yet have the most ridiculous self-imposed stringent restrictions, like launch control… And some of said of this imported element (symbol “WO” on the element chart) can and will be extremely volatile and unstable at high speeds. There’s a second issue with some of the imports in that. Often, the import is packaged with a lot of (relatives) options which were listed as optional equipment, but in reality come with the entire package and very rarely can be separated, in which case everything needs to be housed together under one roof.

That’s why sometimes selecting from preowned inventory might be by far a better deal.
The problem, however, has always been, that the best/most reliable domestics are usually limited in production, have a long waitlist, with very little room for negotiation.