[quote=SD Realtor]Russel have you been to any of the classes at ATA? If you read my post the classes are much more about learning important values and traits and much less about learning martial arts, especially for 3, 4 and 5 year olds. Similarly bullies and karate have nothing to do with each other. You may have run across a bully who knew karate but most bullies are bullies regardless of what they do or do not know. I would venture that the kid would be a bully whether he knew it or not. More then likely they didn’t learn about other tenets associated with martial arts that have nothing to do with the physical nature at all.

We went to a few different schools before picking the one we picked. Easy to criticize if you have seen a case of a bully kid at school doing that. I would venture to say if you had been to a few classes you would find it intructive and beneficial to any young child.[/quote]

I am not condemning involvement in the stuff. You are probably right given the way you are going about it. I am sure my post comes acrossed badly, but it is also based on much more than one case study. You are right that the kids/guys who end up cruising the school yard and intimidating or trying to, are not representative of everyone. A lot of the little ones do practice outside of the normal venues and it is a pita. they do it a lot on the playground. I think it is the parent’s fault when this happens.