I guess that is what I am confused about as well Allan. On the one hand our nation will go to crap. I will not argue about that. On the other hand there will now be a “collection of nations” that will “carry the load” be it humanitarian or military wise.

I guess no I do not buy that.

So the premise is that we will all go to crap but in the new world order there will be a more collective environment that will make the world better.

Okay so I guess I am “clinging to nostalgia” when I say I don’t agree with that hope. To me the world will be a worse place.

Again, not an argument that things will get worse here but definitely an argument that the world will be better off.