[quote=surveyor][quote=Arraya]If we “won” Vietnam, would anything be different? What would we have won, bragging rights?[/quote]

Bin Ladin said specifically that when he studied American history, that he concluded that America was a paper tiger, that if you bloody its nose, it would run away.

He got that lesson from Vietnam.[/quote]

Do you have a link for that quote because it sounds like a right-wing myth. Here is the only OBL vietnam quote I could find.

“In the Vietnam War, the leaders of the White House claimed at the time that it was a necessary and crucial war, and during it, Rumsfeld and his aides murdered two million villagers. And when Kennedy took over the presidency and deviated from the general line of policy drawn up for the White House and wanted to stop this unjust war, that angered the owners of the major corporations who were benefiting from its continuation.”

“And so Kennedy was killed, and al-Qaida wasn�t present at that time, but rather, those corporations were the primary beneficiary from his killing. And the war continued after that for approximately one decade

Are you sure he didn’t study the fall of the soviet union? When he was a CIA asset we paid him to resist the half million soviet forces that were in Afghanistan. Which contributed to their collapse.

He also might have studied global finance where he could have learned about our debt problem and the petro-dollar and it’s importance on funding our military.