zk, I get a sense he hits a nerve with you. Maybe I am wrong, it certainly won’t be the first nor the last time.
What I took for the analogy is “You have your knickers in a wad over imagined slights from Rove? Toughen up, ladies.” I should have been more specific as I implied the whole post.
I take no offense at his “name-calling”, I found the “public school graduates” somewhat funny even if it was directed toward me. Calling me a lady and not being tough? well, I don’t really care, I assume we are big/old enough to know that just because someone says something about us doesn’t make it true.
IMO, I don’t think there is anything mean-spirited behind it, that could simply be jg’s sense of humor. I took it in the context of “get up and walk it off” still, as I don’t know jg, I could be wrong and obviously, we see it in a different manner.
But aren’t you being somewhat of a fraud? You called people unintelligent and irrational you don’t see that as name calling?
“Which is to say, not very well reasoned, not really making any logical points, not doing anything other than attempting to make others look silly and (if observers are intelligent and rational) only making yourself look silly in the process.” That is what I meant in the structure for the RDP.
I saw honesty with “Don’t get me wrong; I think the democrats would do it just as much if they were any good at it.” Too bad you toss it aside with the qualifier “But” immediately after, still, there was a brief acknowledgement.
Rove, you give him a lop-sided compliment, I don’t see it your way So, as to Rove, we agree to disagree.
I appreciate your candor saying you have no excuse for your arrogance.
Your first two sentences in the last paragraph…. are you speaking about jg or the large amount of unintelligent, irrational americans? If you are speaking to jg then you have a valid argument, in the second sentence
if you are speaking about the “large amount etc.” then you are indeed prejudiced toward those who differ in opinion and thought.
“large percentage of our population acts in an unintelligent and irrational fashion. And is subject to the type of influence that Karl Rove and his minions provide. Note that I didn’t say that they were unintelligent, just that they act that way sometimes”. It must be my public school education but I don’t find the “sometimes” in the first part of that statement. Possibly just a typo.
All in all, I concur with your call toward about calm, rational discussion and debate based upon reason and logic albeit with some empathy for the emotional variable and definitely laced with both humor and humility.(leave the arrogance at the door).
One more thing! I assume that when you said “that if they can be taught to act that way, then they can be taught to use reason and logic and calm discussion” you aren’t implying any sort of degradation of free will are you? Just give them the knowledge and let them run with it?
