[quote=AN]There are probably different implementation of socialism too. I know many people from Sweden and over there, you’d get pay equivalent doing manual labor work as being an engineer. Since school is also free over there, many people chose to do manual labor work instead since it require less education and you get paid the similar.[/quote]

Entry level this is true – however, this is not true once you get into mid career path (I work with a Swede :D).

It is not true once you hit mid career levels or higher. A mid career engineer there makes a little less than here, but is still well above median wage (either here or there). 75K or so in equivalent dollars. Management is a bump above that. The payscale is somewhat compressed compared to here, but there is still a range, and the higher demand and higher education jobs still pay significantly better over a career.