Beachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!

Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.

Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).

Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.