[quote=JordanT]Anyways, I think we do agree on quite a bit. I just want a serious debate about whether or not to invade a country, not fashioned as “you’re either for us or against us” or “if you don’t support this war you’re a traitor”[/quote]

I think we can all agree on that? Discourse has always been a feature of democracy, at least true democracy and not the fake kind we have been tending toward lately…