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  • January 12, 2017 at 6:53 AM #22245
    moneymaker
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    Seems like CA jobs are leaving for cheaper markets. Verizon is moving over 1,000 jobs to cheaper parts of the country http://www.edd.ca.gov/jobs_and_training/warn/WARN-Report-for-7-1-2016-to-01-10-2017.pdf . I recall Cox did the same thing with their call center a while back. We need a pro jobs governor that will try to keep jobs here in CA. Maybe Trump can appoint one! Although not affecting me and others may see this as an opportunity it is definitely a trend with some long term consequences. Most of the layoffs at the above site seem to be permanent.
    At least the film La La Land was actually filmed in CA.

    January 12, 2017 at 7:51 AM #804847
    Anonymous
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    Hey, it’s another installment of the regularly-occurring “California is losing jobs because of them liberals” thread!

    In other news, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have predicted the world will end – just like they have a dozen or so times since the 1880s.

    January 12, 2017 at 8:06 AM #804849
    spdrun
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    Calexit 2017 — if CA doesn’t have to support places like Mississippi and Kansas, it could have much lower taxes and thus keep jobs in-state (or rather, in country).

    January 12, 2017 at 9:02 AM #804850
    The-Shoveler
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    Unlike many states when a company moves out of state it usually generates new Jobs and Businesses as the people don’t leave for the most part and start new biz here.

    January 12, 2017 at 9:39 AM #804851
    FlyerInHi
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    Yet housing just keeps going up.

    If one believe that California is headed for the dumps, then one would just wait until the inevitable (in one’s own prediction) crash.

    When is the second coming of Christ again?

    January 12, 2017 at 11:06 AM #804855
    outtamojo
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    Allowing a President to appoint a state governor – now THAT’S unpresidented!

    January 12, 2017 at 12:07 PM #804856
    Anonymous
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    Don’t you know?

    States only have rights when the issue involve slaves, gays, or fetuses.

    January 12, 2017 at 7:09 PM #804862
    EconProf
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    Since the recession of 2008 CA job numbers are up 7.5% compared to a 14.8% jump for Texas (St. Louis Federal Reserve).
    As for GDP, CA up 11.3%, Texas up 38.2%

    I’m guessing the low tax, business friendly states of AZ and NV are also welcoming refugees from CA.

    Lots of other useful data from a Scripps Ranch economist, Richard Rider, at riderrantsblogspot.com.

    January 12, 2017 at 7:27 PM #804863
    moneymaker
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    If Trump is successful don’t you think the next CA election for governor will involve a Republican candidate that says he/she will bring jobs back?

    January 12, 2017 at 9:27 PM #804864
    Anonymous
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    What is with the right’s obsession of comparing California to Texas?

    Cherry pick a few stats to “prove” that Texas is doing things “better.”

    A weak comparison – the Texas economy is dominated by energy.

    Gregg Abbot’s dick is 12.4% bigger than Jerry Brown’s, so we should adopt the same policies as the Lone Star State.

    January 12, 2017 at 11:55 PM #804866
    temeculaguy
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    I think a super majority is unhealthy politically, regardless of which side has it. That being said, if jobs leave to other states, then so will some of the people and I think we have enough people as it is. Most of this blog consists of San Diegans and though we complain about crowds and traffic at times, it’s manageable. I had to go to L.A. today, albeit it was raining but it took me 3 hours and 45 minutes to go 65 miles. When I left it was 7:30 pm and it was bumper to bumper. Maybe we don’t need anymore more people or jobs, perhaps were fine and other places need jobs and growth.

    Perhaps I’m being a nativist, I was born here, my parents and grandparents were born in California but that is as far as it goes so in 1900 my people were contributing to to the growth and maybe there were people here not happy about the extra horse traffic. But is there ever a limit? Can we put up a no vacancy sign at some point, ever?

    We added 2 million people from 2010 to 2015, we now have the population of Florida and New York combined.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density

    look at those numbers! 1st in population by a wide margin, 3rd in square miles but 11th in density.

    We are the only state in the top 25 of density to be in the top 10 of land, the next #26 in density, Texas, has 2 1/2 times less density. So send those jobs and people to the places that need them, hell lots of them have lost people between 2010 and 2015. I would think the most liberal state in the union, the one who supposedly cares about the environment the most would be doing what it could to deport legal and illegal aliens as best it can at least to other states.

    But then again, sending jobs wont help, sorry for the old reference from 2012, but he LA traffic has sapped my energy

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-welfare-capital-of-the-us-2012jul28-htmlstory.html

    Sending jobs wont help because despite having 12% of the nations population we have 34% of it’s welfare recipients so I guess jobs leaving wont reduce the population. It was a good idea until the facts got in the way. I guess I can blame my first sentence of this diatribe.

    January 13, 2017 at 5:28 AM #804867
    SK in CV
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    [quote=moneymaker]If Trump is successful don’t you think the next CA election for governor will involve a Republican candidate that says he/she will bring jobs back?[/quote]

    Employment is growing in California, not shrinking. Much like on the federal level, claiming a path to “bring jobs back” would be a lie. The lie worked at the federal level. As a whole, I think Californians are smarter than that.

    January 13, 2017 at 6:58 AM #804868
    moneymaker
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    I stand corrected. I was wrong! It appears CA jobs are rising faster than the national average. Having 34% of welfare recipients while having 12% of the population makes no sense either, if I was on welfare I would not be living in one of the most expensive states. I would move to Utah or Texas. I guess a lot of it is from personal experience, I have the job I have now partly because the company I worked for was threatening to move to Tennessee. Don’t know if they ever did, I try not to look back and prefer to look forward instead.

    January 13, 2017 at 9:17 AM #804869
    The-Shoveler
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    Well when the company I work for closed down the San Diego office and offered to move the people there to the East coast Office (where the main headquarters for that devision is), No one took the offer (choosing to be laid off instead).

    I am not sure where they all ended up but they did not take the offer to move.

    January 13, 2017 at 9:37 AM #804871
    Anonymous
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    “Welfare” is multiple federal AND state programs. A big chunk of what aid recipients receive actually comes from state money. (In CA the state portion may even be bigger than the federal, but I’m not sure of the numbers.)

    The federal cost of “welfare” is often massively overstated. There is so much mythology about programs for the poor that there’s almost no point in having a debate because damn near everybody is misinformed about how it works, what it costs, and who gets it.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the 34% number is also a myth. Google the question an you’ll get lots of results from conservate sites like CNS and even DavidDuke.com (wtf?) Of course they will repeat any statistic, accurate or not, if it supports the narrative.

    California-bashing is some sort of weird pastime for the right-wing. Oh well, it helps keep out the riff-raff.

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