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May 8, 2015 at 9:00 PM #21516May 8, 2015 at 9:37 PM #786030svelteParticipant
I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.
May 8, 2015 at 9:43 PM #786031CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.[/quote]
Well, to be honest. I don’t get part of this area either…
May 8, 2015 at 11:09 PM #786037njtosdParticipant[quote=svelte]I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.[/quote]
Well – it’s not a place I would live if I didn’t have school aged kids. But since I do, Carmel Valley is easy to understand. Schools are routinely ranked top in the county (son attends CCA which, last I checked, has the highest test scores in SD, plus an arts conservatory, etc). Motivated kids attract good teachers. Low crime, close to the ocean. Almost all the other residents have school aged kids, so there’s a good likelihood that your kids will have friends living close. Most of those kids are VERY academically motivated, so there is a culture supporting academic achievement. Almost every family in CV earns at least part of their living from a scientific pursuit, which I think is a positive thing.. There are a lot of businesses that support the activities that the kids want to do (dance, sports etc). Seems pretty easy to understand. Others may make different choices – but its not hard to understand.
May 9, 2015 at 8:29 AM #786045The-ShovelerParticipantIMO CV is where good parents go to suffer for the sake of their kid’s.
But I truly don’t get this one, why not just buy a few weeks time share in Hawaii LOL.
May 9, 2015 at 10:49 AM #786048applejackParticipantI didn’t understand the appeal of places like Carmel Valley and Scripps Ranch until I had school-age kids. Now that I do, these areas make total sense to me: peace of mind of knowing your kids are at great schools and that their peers will be similarly motivated. Also, the convenience of not having to drive them long distances for good schools, sports and lessons. CV has the added advantage of being very close to the coast and SV tech jobs. If you have 2-3+ kids, the advantages compound.
As far as this timeshare in CV is concerned, my guess is that it would look attractive to someone that lives in a very cold place (like Toronto) to come hang out at a 5 star resort in San Diego every winter.
May 9, 2015 at 12:35 PM #786049FlyerInHiGuest[quote=njtosd][quote=svelte]I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.[/quote]
Well – it’s not a place I would live if I didn’t have school aged kids. But since I do, Carmel Valley is easy to understand. Schools are routinely ranked top in the county (son attends CCA which, last I checked, has the highest test scores in SD, plus an arts conservatory, etc). Motivated kids attract good teachers. Low crime, close to the ocean. Almost all the other residents have school aged kids, so there’s a good likelihood that your kids will have friends living close. Most of those kids are VERY academically motivated, so there is a culture supporting academic achievement. Almost every family in CV earns at least part of their living from a scientific pursuit, which I think is a positive thing.. There are a lot of businesses that support the activities that the kids want to do (dance, sports etc). Seems pretty easy to understand. Others may make different choices – but its not hard to understand.[/quote]
I hate to admit it. But if I had kids, I’d live in Carmel valley too.
As far as suburbs go, it’s very well located.May 9, 2015 at 3:47 PM #786051flyerParticipantWhen my wife and I grew up in LJ, there was no CV, or many of the places people now call home around San Diego.
At that time, (we’re in our 50’s) no one believed anyone would want to live “out in the “middle of nowhere”:) Of course, since then, times have changed, and “nowhere” became a great “somewhere.”
We’ve lived in a lot of places in the world, but when we lived in CV our kids loved it, and we loved the community, the friends we made, the schools, accessibility to I-5–without going too far north–shopping, etc., and, especially the beaches.
Even though we’ve now been in RSF for years, we couldn’t live without our super easy access to the TP or DM beaches and restaurants along the coast. It’s definitely all about personal choices, but for all of those reasons and more, I understand why people want to live in CV.
May 9, 2015 at 6:55 PM #786057fun4vnay2ParticipantI have school going kids and I’d like them to be going to above average schools not the top ranking schools or the bottom of the barrel
If my kids are smart enough they’d make it to decent college and that too with scholarship.May 10, 2015 at 11:14 AM #786072FlyerInHiGuest[quote=rockingtime]I have school going kids and I’d like them to be going to above average schools not the top ranking schools or the bottom of the barrel
If my kids are smart enough they’d make it to decent college and that too with scholarship.[/quote]But what happens if your kids are just average or below average? They’re more likely to be influenced by the other kids.
May 10, 2015 at 11:40 AM #786077SK in CVParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=rockingtime]I have school going kids and I’d like them to be going to above average schools not the top ranking schools or the bottom of the barrel
If my kids are smart enough they’d make it to decent college and that too with scholarship.[/quote]But what happens if your kids are just average or below average? They’re more likely to be influenced by the other kids.[/quote]
And that influence would be good. Much better for average kids to be in an environment where academic achievement is a good thing, than where it’s a bad thing. (And yes, there really are schools where the social environment discourages achievement.)
May 10, 2015 at 2:45 PM #786081FlyerInHiGuestThat’s exactly it, SK. Smart kids can thrive despite the environment. The quality of education is more important to average kids.
May 10, 2015 at 5:16 PM #786084joecParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]That’s exactly it, SK. Smart kids can thrive despite the environment. The quality of education is more important to average kids.[/quote]
The problem is if you had kids, their expected competition gets watered down or is weaker in a moderate or middle of the road school where at a top tier school, they know tons of people are smarter in every which way from being entrepreneurial, tech, medicine, charity, academics, etc…
If your kids are also super smart, the poorer performing schools will not have the resources for your kid since they have far fewer dollars as mentioned in tons of articles that all the schools now have their own foundations and fundraising so your kid will not be able to challenge themselves and will possibly even get bored leading to hanging out with trouble makers, etc…
Like in sports, a high school all star maybe nothing in college and a college all american may never get to the next level.
All in all, I think people with kids should go to the best schools possible for not just the academics, but also for the parents, discipline, money in those schools, the teachers (care more since they aren’t dealing with crap kids all day), simply more resources day in day out. I have talked to teachers in other districts and they say it’s night and day in terms of fundraising and resources some poorer school areas get.
This is why schools are such a big factor in lots of areas and why housing doesn’t drop much in those areas.
May 10, 2015 at 5:23 PM #786085fun4vnay2ParticipantI guess that’s where parents’ involvements come into play.
Parents wont let school dictate everything for their kids.
I think it also has a lot to do with your own value system as well.
May 10, 2015 at 6:17 PM #786086flyerParticipantAs someone who has seen how this all plays out, (since my kids are grown) it does seems that going to “good schools” (as defined in other posts) does make a difference for the majority of students. Of course, there are always exceptions that can be argued both ways.
Even then, I can tell you that, regardless of what schools your kids go to, or how smart they are, the (now global) competition is fierce, and there are a ton of other variables that will ultimately determine their level of success.
When my kids were competing for their career positions, they found that most of their competitors had similar top notch academic backgrounds, and the determining factors in hiring them included far more than academic achievement.
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