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February 4, 2015 at 5:19 AM #21401February 4, 2015 at 7:09 AM #782626
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GuestIn the Iraq war we easily killed ten Iraqi combatants for every American killed, probably much more.
This is not counting the number civilian deaths, which was about an order of magnitude higher.
The outcome of all of that was ISIS.
We already sent our message.
February 4, 2015 at 7:37 AM #782627scaredyclassic
ParticipantKilling is too soft. Maybe some kind of bizarre sexual torture in a prison on their territory?
Aw shoot we tried that too.
Man these guys just don’t get it.
February 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM #782629moneymaker
ParticipantMaybe the message is don’t go to Iraq or Afghanistan as a civilian unless you have a death wish. Anybody else find it strange that all these videos have an executioner with a British/American accent.
February 4, 2015 at 9:37 AM #782630CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=harvey]In the Iraq war we easily killed ten Iraqi combatants for every American killed, probably much more.
This is not counting the number civilian deaths, which was about an order of magnitude higher.
The outcome of all of that was ISIS.
We already sent our message.[/quote]
A pretty accurate statement.
CE
February 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM #782637FlyerInHi
GuestWasn’t that a message that should have been learned since the 1970s? I think some Vietnamese general said that they could endure at least 10 of their own deaths for each American.
February 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM #782638spdrun
ParticipantIf one wanted to destroy the Islamic State, they could make sure it wouldn’t be able to negotiate for ransom and that it was seen even by many radical Muslims as using methods beyond the pale. By killing their hostage in a particularly brutal manner while still “negotiating”, the Islamic State has accomplished both as well as provoking the bloodlust of the pilot’s tribe in Jordan.
I wonder if an intelligence agency (say Mossad or even Jordanian mukhabarat) was able to infiltrate (or even create) a particularly brutal faction of the organization and cause it to do things that generated extremely bad publicity.
February 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM #782639GuestSo now we have to fight the Islamic state that wasn’t there before.
We really have to step back and look at the relative stability ante the American invasion of Iraq and wonder what the invasion created.
February 4, 2015 at 1:27 PM #782640GuestI don’t really follow the events, so, spd, please explain if you know.
Here’s how I understand the situation. ISIS is a Sunni organization that’s fighting Shiite dominance in Iraq (we put the Shiites in power). In Syria, ISIS is fighting the Assad regime. Among the anti-Assad fighters, it’s really hard to differentiate between our friends and ISIS. But, we and Saudi Arabia want Assad out of power so we funded anyone who would fight Assad.
Who will fight Assad if we destroy ISIS? And will Saudi Arabia and Israel be happy with a strong Shiite regime in Iraq, more closely aligned with Iran (also Shiite)?
February 4, 2015 at 3:07 PM #782643an
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Wasn’t that a message that should have been learned since the 1970s? I think some Vietnamese general said that they could endure at least 10 of their own deaths for each American.[/quote]That’s what you’d call a bluff.
February 4, 2015 at 5:14 PM #782648Hobie
ParticipantJordan’s King Abdullah’s response is showing the world the backbone we used to have. Sad.
February 4, 2015 at 5:15 PM #782649Guest[quote=AN][quote=FlyerInHi]Wasn’t that a message that should have been learned since the 1970s? I think some Vietnamese general said that they could endure at least 10 of their own deaths for each American.[/quote]That’s what you’d call a bluff.[/quote]
How was it a bluff?
Counting civilians, they endured at least that ratio. Some estimates are much higher.
February 4, 2015 at 5:19 PM #782650Guest[quote=Hobie]Jordan’s King Abdullah’s response is showing the world the backbone we used to have. Sad.[/quote]
We used to execute prisoners of war as a tit for tat?
February 4, 2015 at 5:30 PM #782651ParticipantNo. That we did not back down in the face of adversity.
Actually, we did execute prisoners and civilians died in collateral damage. Not publicly, ask any vets.
February 4, 2015 at 5:37 PM #782652ParticipantFrankly, I’m getting very tired with every news report showing the barbaric, savage treatment instigated by ISIS combatants. You should too.
They are playing us with these shocking videos. What are the credentials for these Imams and others that issue these ‘scholarly’ interpretations of the Quran. I’m guessing they are the only ones that might be able to at least read. Where are the women’s rights people condoning their treatment of women? Where is the exit plan? Either crush them or come back home.
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