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December 8, 2014 at 2:42 PM #21325December 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM #780857allParticipant
It is good that low income is a possible qualifying criterion. 3% down + low income = success.
December 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM #780859The-ShovelerParticipantSubPrime, it’s not just for car’s anymore LOL.
But really as long as there is either Documentation or down payments then I think we will not see the bubble burst as bad as 2008-9 crash.
Only when you have no downs and no doc’s can you achieve the bubble magnitude we saw last time.
December 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM #780861CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]SubPrime, it’s not just for car’s anymore LOL.
But really as long as there is either Documentation or down payments then I think we will not see the bubble burst as bad as 2008-9 crash.
Only when you have no downs and no doc’s can you achieve the bubble magnitude we saw last time.[/quote]
Agreed. We’re not there…..yet….. π
December 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM #780862anParticipantone step at a time people…. one step at a time. You can’t expect them to completely go back to 2002 standard over night. I’m definitely enjoying the ride. Here’s hope for another bubble.
December 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM #780863spdrunParticipantHere’s hoping for another crash. Crashes are more fun than bubbles.
December 8, 2014 at 3:15 PM #780860spdrunParticipantAlso, average down payment right now is something over 10% down (I read 20% in SD) depending on area. 5% down (prior to now) and 3% down are theoretical minima, if a bunch of other criteria are met. Those criteria tend to raise real down payment requirements higher.
Anyway, hope the GOP congress puts FHFA’s yarbles in a vise and twists the handle. Hard. Tick-tock-tick-tock. Another month till some … change.
Here’s to President Christie in 2016 *clink*.
December 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM #780864anParticipant[quote=spdrun]Here’s hoping for another crash. Crashes are more fun than bubbles.[/quote]Can’t have one without the other.
December 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM #780865spdrunParticipantSure you can — with a general recession reducing all risk assets π Basically, if Europe, Russia, China, and energy firms lead the way down.
December 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM #780867FlyerInHiGuestIn many markets it’s still cheaper up buy than to rent.
Someone I know in Maryland just bought a house for 3% down on my advice. House is nicer than rental apartment, for the same monthly cash outlay. He has a good job for the federal government.
So as long as there is good underwriting with thorough income verification, I don’t see a bubble.
December 8, 2014 at 5:11 PM #780869anParticipant[quote=spdrun]Sure you can — with a general recession reducing all risk assets π Basically, if Europe, Russia, China, and energy firms lead the way down.[/quote]If you see a crash, that mean prior to the crash, you were in a bubble. The bigger the bubble, the bigger the crash.
As for your reasons, lets just wait and see. I don’t see it happening. I central banks around the world lowering rates and doing everything they can to keep the party going again.
December 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM #780870spdrunParticipantCan’t lower rates below zero, QE4 is politically improbable at this point (yay for both GOP houses!), oil is crashing, and China is headed for a mess. Seems like the ECB isn’t so keen on QE either.
2001 to 2008 was seven years. It’s been six years since the last mess…
December 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM #780871anParticipant[quote=spdrun]Can’t lower rates below zero, QE4 is politically improbable at this point (yay for both GOP houses!), oil is crashing, and China is headed for a mess. Seems like the ECB isn’t so keen on QE either.
2001 to 2008 was seven years. It’s been six years since the last mess…[/quote]Why did you pick 2001? Housing didn’t crash in 2001. It crashed around 1991.
December 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM #780872spdrunParticipantHousing is shaky as it is. A generalized slowdown affects general confidence and put the brakes on it.
It sure wasn’t growing much around 2001-2. Last time, housing affected everything else. This time, it might be the other way around.
December 8, 2014 at 10:02 PM #780876anParticipant[quote=spdrun]Housing is shaky as it is. A generalized slowdown affects general confidence and put the brakes on it.
It sure wasn’t growing much around 2001-2. Last time, housing affected everything else. This time, it might be the other way around.[/quote]
But it didn’t crash. It wasn’t event flat. So, why did you pick 2001? I wouldn’t mind if today is like 2001. -
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