I was tired of clogging up other threads pointing out bg’s fabrications, so I’ve created a thread just for that purpose.

Is this really what we want on our forum? Somebody who consistently and persistently makes stuff up? Someone who lies?

I’m not advocating immediately banning bg. She can sometimes be a valuable contributor. But I think that she needs to be warned to stop making stuff up, and then be booted if she won’t comply.

The below is just one post’s worth of fabrications. There is so much more out there, and if anybody thinks this isn’t enough, I’ll bring more.

[quote=bearishgurl]

YOU already gave me (and whoever else who wants to bite, lol) plenty to ammunition to make fun of your situation (as you describe it here) [/quote]
Bg, you making fun of what I say isn’t the problem. The problem is you making stuff up that I didn’t say and then making fun of that

[quote=bearishgurl]

all the while vociferously berating people simply because they state here that they don’t like to be surrounded by untidiness or filth (I’m not a perfect housekeeper but I AM firmly in the FIH/brian camp). [/quote]

I may have berated someone for judging others for their messiness. But I did not berate anybody because “they don’t like to be surrounded by untidiness or filth.” You can’t show me that because I didn’t say it. You made that up.

In fact, I never even mentioned dirt or filth except to say that it’s different from messiness.
[quote=bearishgurl]

zk, you actually stated earlier in this thread that you believe it is essentially okay that you are messy, sloppy, whatever, because you don’t cheat on your spouse, you aren’t a spendthrift and aren’t a rapist or pedophile, none of which has anything to do with being clean or “tidy.” [/quote]

That is not what I said. You can’t show me where I said that because I didn’t say that. You made that up.
[quote=bearishgurl]

YOU yourself brought up all these attributes to compare with being a “messy person” right here on this thread! [/quote]
I did not bring those attributes up to compare that with being a messy person. I’ve already explained how you “misread” that. For you to ignore that and to continue to insist that I was comparing a messy person to a person with those attributes shows a willful decision to lie.

You can’t show me where I “brought up all these attributes to compare with being a “messy person” right here on this thread! “ because I didn’t do that. You made that up.

[quote=bearishgurl]

Later, above, you’ve stated here that you won’t “tidy up” (pick up after yourself) and, “If somebody will do it for (you), perfect.” [/quote]

That’s not what I said. You made that up.
What I said was

“I will clean if I have to (I won’t tidy up, though, generally). I’m messy, but I’m not dirty. I don’t like cleaning, but I do it because I insist on clean. If somebody will do it for me, perfect.”

The “do it for me” refers to cleaning, not tidying. Which would be obvious, except you left out two contextually-important sentences.

[quote=bearishgurl]

Glad you hear that you (hopefully) found a partner who will constantly pick up after you. [/quote]
My wife doesn’t constantly pick up after me. You can’t show me where I said or implied that, because I didn’t. You made that up.
[quote=bearishgurl]
Nevermind you can only invite half a dozen people at a time in your (expensive and expansive) back yard, can’t have a small super bowl party without a lot of grief afterwards and don’t travel anymore (due to your marital status?) [/quote]
We travel all the time. And I travel with friends. What I said was,

“Perhaps they insisted on the clean, and the tidy just came along with it. That’s how it was for me. When I travel (I should say travelled, it’s different now that I’m married), I didn’t insist on daily room service. But I preferred it so that I didn’t have to clean. I will clean if I have to (I won’t tidy up, though, generally). I’m messy, but I’m not dirty. I don’t like cleaning, but I do it because I insist on clean. If somebody will do it for me, perfect.”

The “it’s different” refers to insisting on daily room service and the messiness of my hotel room. Not whether I travel or not. Now that I’m married, we insist on daily room service. We travel frequently. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt on that one; I can see how it would’ve been misconstrued.
[quote=bearishgurl]

To the reader of your posts, it appears that you are clearly paying the price for having a partner who will constantly pick up after you. Whether you are paying a fair price (or not) for that service is in the eye of the beholder. [/quote]
No, bg, to you, who I’ve made look stupid on several occasions and who is now vindictive, it appears I’m paying the price. I would guess most everyone else reads the posts and sees that I have a happy marriage. One that involves give and take, like all happy marriages do.
[quote=bearishgurl]
Don’t come here and talk about yourself ad nauseaum and then later backpedal in numerous paragraphs[/quote]
You can’t show me where I backtracked, because I didn’t. You made that up.
[quote=bearishgurl]

trying to defend yourself and say that someone got the wrong idea about you. Nobody did that, least of all me. [/quote]
As is clearly evidenced by all the incorrect things you’ve said, (in this post and in others) you clearly did get the wrong idea. Not that you’ll ever admit that.
[quote=bearishgurl]

You came here and did it to yourself … all without being prompted or cajoled. You even admitted here that you gave 97% in your relationship[/quote]
I said I’m 97% neater than I used to be. And then, in the same post, I said,
“So there are disadvantages. But, hey, to make a marriage work, you have to work together and compromise. I do most of the giving in this particular area, but she more than makes up for it in other areas.”
You can’t show me where I said I give 97% in my relationship because I never said that. You made that up.
[quote=bearishgurl]
and then later backpedaled and stated you gave only ~45%. [/quote]
Since I never said I gave 97%, 45% is not a back pedal.
[quote=bearishgurl]
I can read your posts and surmise your situation from them just fine as can everyone else. [/quote]
No, you can’t, bg. You read my posts, then make a bunch of stuff up, and then surmise based on the stuff you’ve made up.
[quote=bearishgurl]
If you’re happy, zk, then we’re all happy for you. [/quote]
If you think that you can speak for all of the people on this forum, then you’re delusional. I can’t speak for them either, but it would be my guess that not a single person on this forum agrees with what you’ve surmised.
[quote=bearishgurl]
Notice that I haven’t tried to insult you here [/quote]
Bg, I would much rather have you insult me than make stuff up about me. Especially if you can back up your insults, as I can.
[quote=bearishgurl]
but you have found it necessary to call me numerous names here, including “stupid,” [/quote]
Stupid I can back up. As I said, not necessarily stupid in the traditional sense of the word. But I think this post illustrates the kind of stupid I’m talking about.
[quote=bearishgurl]

as well as telling me, “fvck you,” which I’m assuming is another one of your defense mechanisms. [/quote]
You got me there. That was lame and I shouldn’t have said it. It wasn’t a defense mechanism, though. It was kind of a quote from an incident where a friend of mine bumped into another guy. A big biker guy outside a biker bar. The big guy said, “aren’t you going to say excuse me?” In a nasty tone of voice. So my friend tells me, “I opened my mouth, and I meant to say ‘excuse me.’ But what came out was “fuck you.” I tried to parallel that, but it didn’t work. My bad. (My friend was subsequently decked). What I said was:
Oh, yippee, I’m validated. Oh, wait, that was prickly bitchiness masquerading as support. Well, in that case what I meant was fuck you.

Yeah, it doesn’t really work even if you know the story.
[quote=bearishgurl]

I’m about the least “emotional” one can be on this forum. [/quote]
Wow. If you really think that, you’re worse off than I thought. Clearly you’re not stupid enough to actually think I said all the stuff that you’ve made up that I’ve pointed out in this post (and that you’ve made up in many other posts). You’ve got an emotional issue with me, and you’re trying to make me look bad. If you’re not aware of that, you really do need help.
Think of it this way, bg. Let’s say scaredy had posted the exact same thing I posted. Well, not the exact same thing; he would’ve worded it in a more amusing and poetic way. But let’s say the facts were exactly the same. Would you have read it the way you read it when I wrote it? Would you have responded the same way?
[quote=bearishgurl]
As a matter of fact, the opposite can be said about me. I’ve tried on numerous occasions to inject a semblance of reality into other posters who became “emotional” (or just over-the-top “concerned”) about issues for which they were not considering all the facts and/or did not know all the facts. Two examples which come to mind would be rejecting a perfectly decent house on a perfectly decent street because of the presence of a nearby PC 290 registrant in residence or lambasting Pigg krowe (or her case or “misdeeds”) when she has not yet been tried in a court of law and has not yet had her day(s) in an administrative tribunal where her employment status will be adjudicated. There have been many other examples over the years. I’m only concerned about how the “system” actually works and how the the world works, NOT how I think it “should be.” I don’t care how the MSM has chosen to spin their latest “darling” story so it will “sell” to the (largely ignorant and complacent) public. [/quote]
There may be occasions where you are rational. That doesn’t mean you’re not emotional, and it certainly doesn’t mean you’re the least emotional one can be on this forum. When you get your knickers in a wad, you’re basically a lunatic.
[quote=bearishgurl]
zk, your insults to me on this thread don’t bother me but are very telling about you. [/quote]
If you never can see that you’re wrong, of course it’s not going to bother you if somebody calls you stupid.
[quote=bearishgurl]
Why don’t you endeavor to just stick to the topic at hand[/quote]
You’ve made the topic at hand your lies. Stick to the truth, and I’ll stick to the topic at hand.
[quote=bearishgurl]
and refrain from hurling insults at people who don’t have the same opinions that you do? [/quote]
I’m not insulting you or anybody else because they have a different opinion from me. I’m insulting you because you make stuff up and try to pass it off as the truth.

[quote=bearishgurl]
The examples you gave about yourself here are fine. It’s perfectly legal to be “messy” (and have a partner who will pick up after them). We get it. [/quote]
Who’s we? Speak for yourself. And you don’t get it at all, as I’ve shown in this and other posts.