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  • September 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM #21244
    scaredyclassic
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    article in ny times today on scientist predictions for good real estate in 2050. alaska may be like florida. predict lots of environmental refugeees. southern cal. is toast. pac. nw may be surviveable, also midwest. detroit may rise like a phoenix.

    goddamnit. now im all upset.

    i’ll likely be dead by then anyway. should be able to ride out the end of the usa…

    September 23, 2014 at 9:28 PM #778248
    svelte
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    Meanwhile, the Antarctic ice continues to grow!

    And low and behold, the Global Warmers site that as further evidence of their theory. WTF?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/06/climate-change-is-getting-worse-so-why-is-antarcticas-ice-sheet-expanding/

    It all reminds me of Crack Babies.

    Remember when the media couldn’t shut up about the crack epidemic in the early 1980s and said we were about to be overrun with crack babies so screwed up that the future of civilization was in peril?

    Funny how that turned out to be a mirage.

    Now we have a new “The End Is Near” banner to wave. I just wished folks would quit using “Global Warming” and “Man-induced Climate Change” interchangeably. They are not one and the same.

    Can’t wait to see what “The End Is Near” scare is next…

    September 23, 2014 at 10:16 PM #778250
    spdrun
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    Ebola will save us(*) — after all, there can’t be much -genic without a lot of anthropo 🙂

    (*) – us that will remain.

    September 24, 2014 at 6:22 AM #778252
    livinincali
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    I honestly don’t know don’t know how much if any man induced climate change is occurring. I do know that the proposed solution of carbon tax credits is just another scam by the financial industry looking to trade and skim money from the transaction of those credits. I also know it will increase our energy bills. I do think thorium nuclear from coal is the best energy solution until we figure out fusion. Unfortunately it looks like we’re intent on covering a significant portion of the mohave desert with solar thermal. It will work, I just don’t think it’s optimal.

    September 24, 2014 at 6:49 AM #778253
    Hobie
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    +1 –thorium nuclear.

    Wish nuclear industry would enlist more outreach to educate people of the safe benefits of this technology. Especially to the enviro folks. Answers all of their concerns.

    September 24, 2014 at 7:09 AM #778254
    scaredyclassic
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/science/on-a-warmer-planet-which-cities-will-be-safest.html?_r=0

    September 24, 2014 at 7:19 AM #778255
    scaredyclassic
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    [quote=svelte]Meanwhile, the Antarctic ice continues to grow!

    And low and behold, the Global Warmers site that as further evidence of their theory. WTF?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/06/climate-change-is-getting-worse-so-why-is-antarcticas-ice-sheet-expanding/

    It all reminds me of Crack Babies.

    Remember when the media couldn’t shut up about the crack epidemic in the early 1980s and said we were about to be overrun with crack babies so screwed up that the future of civilization was in peril?

    Funny how that turned out to be a mirage.

    Now we have a new “The End Is Near” banner to wave. I just wished folks would quit using “Global Warming” and “Man-induced Climate Change” interchangeably. They are not one and the same.

    Can’t wait to see what “The End Is Near” scare is next…[/quote]

    that article you linked says the growing sea ice is linked to human activity also.

    I kind of think we are affecting the planet.

    I kind of feel like maybe we should do smething.

    September 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM #778262
    FlyerInHi
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    I don’t know…. people have told me that back in the 1970s and 1980s there was no need for AC in San Diego. Even upscale houses in La Jolla didn’t have AC.

    September 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM #778264
    livinincali
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    [quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t know…. people have told me that back in the 1970s and 1980s there was no need for AC in San Diego. Even upscale houses in La Jolla didn’t have AC.[/quote]

    Looks like it was hotter on average back in 1970’s and 1980’s. Carry with the anecdotal evidence though.

    September 24, 2014 at 2:54 PM #778265
    FlyerInHi
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    I knew someone would bring historical data which I was too lazy to look up…. Feel free to talk the old time San Diegans.

    Maybe, in the past, people’s tolerances for having no AC was higher because they didn’t expect all the modernities we expect today.

    September 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM #778268
    FlyerInHi
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    My facebook page has been inundated by links Leonardo’s speech as the UN.
    He was pretty good.

    http://www.upworthy.com/leonardo-dicaprio-asks-everyone-in-the-world-to-stop-pretending-like-facts-dont-exist?g=2&c=ufb1

    September 24, 2014 at 5:48 PM #778270
    Hobie
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    .

    September 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM #778273
    scaredyclassic
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    [quote=FlyerInHi]I knew someone would bring historical data which I was too lazy to look up…. Feel free to talk the old time San Diegans.

    Maybe, in the past, people’s tolerances for having no AC was higher because they didn’t expect all the modernities we expect today.[/quote]

    Mean. Hmm could be higher highs and lower lows.
    Need more data

    September 25, 2014 at 12:45 AM #778278
    ucodegen
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    [quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t know…. people have told me that back in the 1970s and 1980s there was no need for AC in San Diego. Even upscale houses in La Jolla didn’t have AC.[/quote]I was in San Diego when I was about 13 years old. My parents had an RV back then (bus type). It was during Thanksgiving, we were parked overnight in the Mission Bay parking area (overnight parking was legal then). I remember it because it was very hot and humid at night. Very uncomfortable. It was in the early-mid 1970s. I started attending UCSD 1979/1980. The dorms @ Revelle were very warm in September (warm and humid).

    In general, there is no AC needed for Coastal San Diego. The only exception is a period of about 3 months. It has been that way for a long time, and is still that way along the Coast.

    September 25, 2014 at 1:00 AM #778279
    ucodegen
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    [quote=FlyerInHi]I knew someone would bring historical data which I was too lazy to look up…. Feel free to talk the old time San Diegans.

    Maybe, in the past, people’s tolerances for having no AC was higher because they didn’t expect all the modernities we expect today.[/quote]Umm… basically you wanted to slide an opinion by as fact, hoping that no-one would catch you and someone caught you with the real facts. Try Google. It really is not that hard to use.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=San+Diego+annual+mean+temperatures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
    Take a look at the images shown by Google… one of them should look familiar. Click that link, go down about 5 links to “SAN DIEGO ANNUAL MEAN TEMPERATURE HISTORY (1875-2013)” and select…

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