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June 3, 2014 at 9:34 AM #21109June 3, 2014 at 9:50 AM #774695
spdrun
ParticipantAZ and NV aren’t that far away. And I wonder if having to repaint the pergola regularly and possibly have it rot will have more effect on the environment than a one-time use of VOC stain.
June 3, 2014 at 9:58 AM #774696Huckleberry
ParticipantI mean no disrespect, but I actually laughed out loud at the irony of this post coming from an author by the name of “treehugger”, especially the last sentence!
June 3, 2014 at 10:28 AM #774698
CoronitaParticipantLol.. If you think that’s bad, just wait until you need to get your car repainted in CA…..
Water-based car paint….
June 3, 2014 at 10:34 AM #774699an
Participant[quote=Huckleberry]I mean no disrespect, but I actually laughed out loud at the irony of this post coming from an author by the name of “treehugger”, especially the last sentence![/quote]LoL
June 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM #774700SD Transplant
ParticipantThat’s perfect timing as I have been considering staining my patio cover that I’m about to build. THe current one with H2O based paint is termite ridden and paint is peeling off….I had no idea there is legislation around this subject.
June 3, 2014 at 12:26 PM #774704
barnaby33ParticipantSo you are a tree hugger till you want what you want? I for one am shocked! Never mind that a Pergola is in no way shape or form a need, you just sound like a douche.
I have no idea whether the stains in question are bad for the environment, but your tone is just awful.
JoshJune 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM #774707no_such_reality
ParticipantAre products like the Miniwax Wood Finish 250 VOC Compliant oil based finishes not available in California?
Minwax made the product to match their original Wood Finish polyurethane finishes with a different oil mixture to reduce the VOCs to levels compliant with the green seal initiative.
http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains/minwax-wood-finish-250-voc-compliant
I personally prefer the very basic teak or eucalyptus just coated annually with linseed oil.
June 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM #774708CDMA ENG
Participant???
Rockler seems to sell it…
Maybe I am misunderstanding…
CE
June 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM #774715treehugger
ParticipantI looked up the minwax product looks like it is for interior use. Maybe not for exterior due to UV breakdown?
The pergola will be Douglas fir, otherwise I agree linseed oil may be a good alternative for teak or other hardwoods, maybe even cedar.
My dad makes garden boxes out of cedar and redwood and paints some of them with linseed oil, the wood is beautiful.
June 4, 2014 at 10:17 PM #774747ParticipantWhat about the Olympic exterior stain/sealers. The olympic maximum has high VOC and low VOC lines. The low VOC line is a linseed oil based so it gains the oil penetrating benefits. Lowes and others carry it locally.
http://www.olympic.com/products/stains/13/olympic-maximum-stain-sealant-in-one
June 5, 2014 at 10:15 PM #774785mike92104
Participant[quote=barnaby33]So you are a tree hugger till you want what you want? I for one am shocked! Never mind that a Pergola is in no way shape or form a need, you just sound like a douche.
I have no idea whether the stains in question are bad for the environment, but your tone is just awful.
Josh[/quote]I’m for environmental laws that make sense and think about the whole picture. It’s great that we have reduced VOC’s, but when doing so renders the product nearly useless, it’s a problem. What is the environmental cost of having to reapply stain every other year, or worse yet having to repair/replace that pergola because it wasn’t properly treated?
June 6, 2014 at 12:25 AM #774787CA renter
Participant[quote=mike92104][quote=barnaby33]So you are a tree hugger till you want what you want? I for one am shocked! Never mind that a Pergola is in no way shape or form a need, you just sound like a douche.
I have no idea whether the stains in question are bad for the environment, but your tone is just awful.
Josh[/quote]I’m for environmental laws that make sense and think about the whole picture. It’s great that we have reduced VOC’s, but when doing so renders the product nearly useless, it’s a problem. What is the environmental cost of having to reapply stain every other year, or worse yet having to repair/replace that pergola because it wasn’t properly treated?[/quote]
This is exactly the problem. Same with “Energy Star” appliances that now break down and need to be replaced within 10 years, instead of the 20-30 year lifespan that they used to have. Having to dump and replace everything on an accelerated schedule is far worse for our environment than having something that may use a little more energy or pollute a bit more for a short time.
We are losing sight of the goal, IMHO.
June 6, 2014 at 10:04 AM #774797CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of environmental law..
Don’t even get me started….You folks ever try to replace a broken/worn catalytic converter?
For a specific autocross car, if I buy the california “CARB” version, it’s $300. If I buy the “federal” version that is used in other states, it’s $99…
The difference?
The California one comes with a “CARB sticker” Everything else is pretty much the same in terms of actually cutting emissions….Of course, I could do the a-hole thing to the environment, and just take out the entire catalytic converter and stick a straight pipe there so just about everything out of the engine goes into the environment, and never register it and tow it to wherever I need to drive it… But currently too much of a hassle for me, that and I would need to find a place to park a trailer hitch…
June 11, 2014 at 9:01 AM #774951Zeitgeist
ParticipantHere is another link: http://www.deckstainhelp.com/tag/oil-based-deck-stains/
Maybe you can get one that is the best of both worlds. Good luck with your project.
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