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July 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM #19940July 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM #747405carlsbadworkerParticipant
It happened Feb 2012.
“Buyers paying with cash accounted for 31.3 percent of May home sales, down from 32.2 percent the month before and up from 29.2 percent a year earlier. Cash purchases peaked at 33.7 percent of all sales this February, and since 2000 the monthly average is about 15 percent.”
http://www.dqnews.com/Articles/2012/News/California/Southern-CA/RRSCA120613.aspx
July 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM #747407scaredyclassicParticipantCouldn’t that just be signalling people are sick desperate and vomitorious over low bank interest rates?
July 7, 2012 at 11:40 AM #747413CoronitaParticipant[quote=squat250]Couldn’t that just be signalling people are sick desperate and vomitorious over low bank interest rates?[/quote]
yes and yes
July 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM #747430moneymakerParticipantYeah we’re in recovery. Should somebody tell Mitt or Obama? Time to reinvest in the market.
July 7, 2012 at 3:50 PM #747431spdrunParticipantWe MAY be in recovery. But as long as you can get the cap rate you want from a property/have it cash-flow decently or break even after mortgage, who gives a rodent’s bee-hind about recovery status.
De-rate the rent by 20-25% to account for vacancy and future decreases (rent right now may be a Bubble) of course.
July 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM #747458CA renterParticipant[quote=flu][quote=squat250]Couldn’t that just be signalling people are sick desperate and vomitorious over low bank interest rates?[/quote]
yes and yes[/quote]
…and yes
Even I (one of the notorious “permabears”) finally caved, and the low rate environment is what completely pushed us over the edge.
July 8, 2012 at 10:29 AM #747474scaredyclassicParticipantLow interest rates are weird. Someday we will look back at it as very weird probably. It really does make hanging on to cash feel dangerous.
July 8, 2012 at 10:32 AM #747476JazzmanParticipantYou still need to look at who those cash buyers are and what their goals are. Properties were cash-flowing positive a long time ago in many parts of the country, where home prices are so much cheaper, and a 5-10% further decline is not calamitous anyway. I think you’ll find yield chasers comprise a healthy portion of those cash buyers, and they won’t all have the luxury of waiting for an uptick in prices.
You only know you’ve hit bottom after consecutive months of appreciation, discounting any seasonal blips. This market is going to be harder to tell when that happens, since we’re probably in for a long flat period, which doesn’t signal a recovery necessarily, but that the worst is over.
July 8, 2012 at 8:00 PM #747496moneymakerParticipantAfter thinking about it a bit, I think the media focuses on unemployment when talking about the economy. Although that aspect affects many people. I don’t think it is 100% necessary for unemployment to go down in order to enter into recovery mode. I think once those jobs are gone, they are gone, don’t think they will be coming back any time soon. So anyone unemployed should either start their own business or get a job that can’t be exported or be filled by H-1B visas.
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