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March 3, 2012 at 4:35 PM #19563March 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM #739256zkParticipant
Vagrancy has its lure, but I’d miss too many things.
I love the differences of other places when I go there. And those differences have, at times, made me tempted to move there. Not a fantasy or a whim. Actually tempted to retire there. Hence, I’ve given this a lot of thought. And I’ve concluded that to stay there permanently and visit other places rather than to stay here permanently and visit other places would just be, for me… too much of that and not enough of this. Not enough of America.
Things I’d miss:
American culture. Sure, it gets slammed, and it has its low points. But it’s not home if it’s not American.
My friends and (extended) family. Of course. Sure, you could make new friends over there. But it’s not the same. For instance, you take up a new hobby here, and you’re likely to meet lots of people you can relate to. It’s harder to make that connection and have it last with somebody from a different culture. At least the percentages would be different. Having a few (or a lot of) friends from other cultures is interesting and fun. Having all of them be from another culture… I think that’d be another story. Having 8 Cambodian guys over to watch (American) football (if you can find it on your satellite) on a Sunday afternoon (although if you want to watch it live, it’ll actually be on very early Monday morning) isn’t quite the same.
A half-decent steakhouse. Doesn’t have to be Morton’s. Outback is just fine. They might have the occasional steakhouse there (if Malaysia is any guide) but it’s not the same. Things taste different, the service is different, everything’s different.
The steakhouse is really just a representative for bars, restaurants, museums, amusement parks. Heck, even beaches and golf courses. Almost anything you do for fun. Sure, they have them there, but they’re different. Which, like I said, is fun for a week or a month or maybe even a year or two. I think I’d really start to miss home at that point.
Relatively short trips to Big Bear, San Francisco, L.A., Vegas, even Chicago or New York.
There are more, but I’m off to Outback with the family. Then a movie on the big screen. And then to pick up a banana cream pie at Von’s on the way home. I love life in America.
March 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM #739261scaredyclassicParticipantI don’t like steak, the NFL or cream pie. I’m in the mood for some fried scorpions and just reading by the beach
March 3, 2012 at 8:02 PM #739263barnaby33ParticipantWhile I wouldn’t say Columbia is dirt cheap, Medellin in particular. I’m enjoying being homeless here for now and in SD upon my return.
JoshMarch 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM #739264NotCrankyParticipantI turned 18 somewhere on the Alaskan Highway. I hitch hiked to Homer from Ventura, worked a little but never had a place. I started the trip back halfway through summer but the Canadians would not let me in for lack of a car and insignificant funds… they caught me sneaking across the border. I went back to Homer and got enough money clearing out weeds for a ferry to Kodiak and got a job there to pay for airfare back to California. I did it again two summers later.
All in all not bad…sometimes really fun…sometimes quite hard.March 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM #739266zkParticipant[quote=walterwhite]I don’t like steak, the NFL or cream pie. I’m in the mood for some fried scorpions and just reading by the beach[/quote]
Bring some Confucius to read at the beach. And remember, Confucius say, “Fry scorpion not fry scorpion without curry.”
March 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM #739267moneymakerParticipantInternet would be high on my priority list for living in another country. Many asian countries have it, but the poorer countries that are cheaper I suspect it would be harder to find truly high speed internet. I think being a bum is only fun when it is by choice.
March 4, 2012 at 8:22 AM #739272teaboyParticipantIf you’ve ever travelled around SE Asia, you’d probably agree that:
1. The majority of (nice) beach areas are already 50%+ westerners. Locals cant afford it.
2. Hence the RE cost of a bar on the beach is not cheap!
3. Competition with other bars is typically high and income is low. Owning a bar and having to deal with the day-to-day managing of it would be a PITA, in my opinion.
4. Although there are many older travellers, and even some who aren’t pedos, it’s mostly a young man’s (18-25) game.However, if I were independenly wealthy, a “6mo here and 6mo there” type of lifestlye between SE Asia and US would sound very tempting.
tb
March 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM #739273RenParticipantI considered this in my younger days. A couple of rental properties in the states would easily fund a bum lifestyle on many a foreign beach. There are a lot of concerns that go along with that – local laws, crime, human rights, medical care, etc.
March 4, 2012 at 9:13 AM #739274KIBUParticipantI guarantee you will miss the freeway here. One of my friend did after a while living there.
March 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM #739277scaredyclassicParticipantI recently bought a book called Of Stones And Strength about the history of lifting big rocks. It’s very good for you. Really, A big rock, it’s all you need for total fitness. You. Save gym fees there. No car. Eat light. I guess it’s the medical care that’s tricky.
Could drop a rock on your toe or have a heart attack.
I am confident I won’t miss a freeway or any motor vehicle.
March 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM #739279temeculaguyParticipantWandering hobo is a young mans game. I can’t even stay in cheap hotels anymore. If the thread count of the sheets goes under 300 I’m miserable. I used to love backpacking for days/weeks and also camping, now my favorite part of camping is coming home.
March 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM #739284ZeitgeistParticipantWalter-
You need a vacation. It is as simple as that.
March 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM #739285scaredyclassicParticipantYes, true. But I don’t like to go anywhere with my family. It’s not good on the road with all my people. I get very tense.
I’m looking into a two week strength camp. Perhaps a rock quarry.
March 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM #739290moneymakerParticipantIf you’re over 40 I would recommend DHEA supplementation either before or after you throw your back out. It’s pretty tough to lift a big rock while keeping your back straight. Rocks are cool though, nothing like hand painted rocks to brighten up a garden.
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