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December 25, 2011 at 10:23 PM #19379December 26, 2011 at 12:04 AM #734984
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ParticipantBeautiful and wonderfully inspiring!
Thank you very much for posting this, scaredy.
December 26, 2011 at 12:19 PM #734989briansd1
GuestNotice that, in those videos, the stuff made in USA are made in older industrial cities.
There must be a commitment to keeping up and revitalizing old neighborhoods and cities in order to maintain and build the base to support those old established businesses.
But Americans have the habit of abandoning the old and moving to new cities such as Temecula, Phoenix, Orlando, etc… That makes it much easier for companies to close up shop and outsource.
December 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM #734990sdrealtor
ParticipantI find it easy to support made in the USA. I just drink lots of Californian Wines
December 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM #734991Guestsdrealtor, do you see real Americans picking grapes?
My dad told me that Chinese wines have won top awards and that the French were a little perturbed about that.
I’m of the opinion that with scientific advancements, you can pretty much duplicate anything. Did you hear about the duplication of stradivarious violins using CT scan technology?
http://genevalunch.com/among-the-vines/2011/12/18/judgement-of-beijing-ningxia-wines-top-bordeaux/
December 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM #734995
CoronitaParticipantUnfortunately, aegis bicycles went under…
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Their story…
http://www.aegisbicycles.com/about.html…Side note…I saw this bike over the weekend.
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=61546&scid=1101&scname=Road
Not that I’m in the market for such a beast… But oh my… Only if it was made in usa…
That bike weighed nothing…Carbon fiber frame is da’ shit..
December 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM #734996scaredyclassic
ParticipantDecember 26, 2011 at 8:26 PM #734998ParticipantBrian
You are spending too much time in Philly if you are questioning whether they are real americans picking grapes.Making wine is an art. Science can only get you so far. You gotta have the right dirt, the right weather, the skill in tending the vineyards and so much more. That is what I love about wine. Its chemistry, farming, geology, meteorology, experience, art and love all wrapped up into one big bundle of fun.
China is a huge country and the idea that all the right conditions could come together in some part of that country is not shocking. Then bring in a skilled winemaker trained at Chateau Palmer and you have a great wine in the making. This is not simply some one in a lab cooking up great wine. It is some much more than just science.
December 26, 2011 at 9:28 PM #734999Participantok im sorry i disrespected carbon fiber but i hate it. i lvoe steel, made in usa steel.
i know bicycle materials can be more contentious than religion or political arguments, so I am sorry. I shouldn
‘t have been so short and blunt.i just hate carbon fiber. despise it. i hate everything about it.
also…
weight in bicycles in vastly overrated.
i think we already went through this analysis, but a couple pounds saved on frame, v. total rider/bike component weight package is de minimis.
waterford is an amazing us bicycle company making steel bikes. schwinn’s grandson, i think, started it…
i haven’t been on a bicycle for 3 months since i’ve been weightlifting.
but one of my tendons in my leg sort of hurts now.
really i love any bicycle and i encourage anyone to love any bicycle they love.
i believe what gary fisher said, “anyone who rides a bike is a friend of mine”.
still, carbon fiber, ick.
December 27, 2011 at 9:42 AM #735013Huckleberry
Participant[quote=walterwhite]carbon fiber is crap.
here’s a true american bike company.
steel is real.[/quote]
Carbon fiber is NOT crap!
I manufacture a carbon fiber product called a SKEGPROTECTOR (http://skegprotector.com) that is stronger than my competitors products and gets much better reviews by consumers.
Composite materials are used in both aerospace and military applications where steel is too heavy nor strong enough.
If you truly understood the nature and engineering of composite materials you wouldn’t make such BOLD and naive statements.
Oh, and my product is made in the USA, right up in Oceanside!
December 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM #735016CoronitaParticipant[quote=Huckleberry][quote=walterwhite]carbon fiber is crap.
here’s a true american bike company.
steel is real.[/quote]
Carbon fiber is NOT crap!
I manufacture a carbon fiber product called a SKEGPROTECTOR (http://skegprotector.com) that is stronger than my competitors products and gets much better reviews by consumers.
Composite materials are used in both aerospace and military applications where steel is too heavy nor strong enough.
If you truly understood the nature and engineering of composite materials you wouldn’t make such BOLD and naive statements.
Oh, and my product is made in the USA, right up in Oceanside![/quote]
Cool.
December 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM #735015ParticipantCarbon fiber bicycles are IMO not safe.
Carbon fiber fails catastrophically on carbon bicycle forks.
Lance armstrongs carbon fiber chainstay peeled off during one tour de France …
That just doesn’t happen with steel…
I only meant carbon fiber bike frames. Catastrophic failure on a tennis racket obviously no big deal.My understanding is a gouge on a carbon bike fork greatly lessens it’s theoretical strength.
Steel has more leeway for real life bike conditions.
I could be wrong but I will not ride a carbon fibre bike until they’ve been around 50 years and I see no weird chainstay random cracks for ten.
December 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM #735017CoronitaParticipant[quote=walterwhite]Carbon fiber bicycles are IMO not safe.
Carbon fiber fails catastrophically on carbon bicycle forks.
Lance armstrongs carbon fiber chainstay peeled off during one tour de France …
That just doesn’t happen with steel…
I only meant carbon fiber bike frames. Catastrophic failure on a tennis racket obviously no big deal.My understanding is a gouge on a carbon bike fork greatly lessens it’s theoretical strength.
Steel has more leeway for real life bike conditions.
I could be wrong but I will not ride a carbon fibre bike until they’ve been around 50 years and I see no weird chainstay random cracks for ten.[/quote]
You’re going to have to avoid air travel soon, starting with the 787.
December 27, 2011 at 11:14 AM #735020ParticipantDon’t know about planes. Just read about a lout of bike forks of carbon snapping.
Just read a carbon fibre gear website touting the 787 plane but also saying the pro carbon fiber writer wouldn’t be using the planes for a while since they’re just now entering commercial use and most of the testing is computerized.
Also sounds like lots of problems w breakage during development.
Planes might be different since they’re not going as light as a bike.
I could not relax on a carbon fiber bike.
I would not fly in a carbon fiber plane.
December 27, 2011 at 11:17 AM #735023ParticipantSteel bends.
Carbon fiber snaps.
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