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October 26, 2011 at 10:02 AM #19234October 26, 2011 at 11:13 AM #731348
bob2007
ParticipantFor the wines I like and buy, I’ve noticed that I can usually buy wine at Vons for about the same price per bottle as the bevmo 5c sale.
Which italian wines do you prefer?
October 26, 2011 at 11:16 AM #731349sdrealtor
ParticipantHard for me to say as I dont buy much through conventional channels anymore. I have been buying alot of auction wines that are 30 to 50% what they were acquired at. The world of wine still seems to be on sale to me though I am not a high end Bordeaux buyer where it definitely is not.
October 26, 2011 at 3:26 PM #731359ucodegen
ParticipantI’ve tried some BevMo sold wines and beers and was disappointed by some of the quality. It seemed that even some of the brands I liked didn’t taste as I remembered. I found out that BevMo doesn’t always follow temperature and storage procedures for the wines and beers. Most of it is open storage in the range of 68 to 76 degrees.
One of the places I have found for good quality wines at a decent price is 3rd Corner in Encinitas. It is a combined Wine Shop and Bistro. There are also 3rd Corners in Ocean Beach and Palm Desert. The prices are fairly good, though they also carry some more expensive wines as well. Most of them are NOT the common labels. I have found that many of the common labels actually buy the wines from other winerys and relabel.
October 26, 2011 at 5:06 PM #731366Participant3rd Corner has nice wines and fair prices. Also try La Costa Wine in the area. BevMo sells very mediocre wines and they are overpriced. Occasionally they have a great deal but they are few and far between. Most of what they get are from off year vintages too. They pick up the stuff the better shops dont want and charge too much for them. Costco is great also if you know what to look for.
October 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM #731368poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m still all about Chilean and Spanish wines. For the buck, they seem to be the best values, at least in my sub-$20 price range.
October 26, 2011 at 6:14 PM #731369ParticipantMuch better values than that if you know where to find them. High end wineries that cant sell all their wine sell it off in bulk to private labelers. I just bought 6 bottles of a Howell Mountain Properietary Red Wine for $19.99 that is also being sold for over $100 under the wineries label. Howell Mountain is one fo the best AVA’s (growing areas) in Napa Valley. The wine world is on sale if you know where to find it.
October 26, 2011 at 7:11 PM #731377
svelteParticipantSupposedly, early rains this year destroyed many grapes. Therefore, the theory is that winemakers will use the remaining crop to make their higher priced wines and will allot less to the bottom of the barrel wines…perhaps driving up prices on them once this year’s crop hits the shelves.
October 27, 2011 at 8:53 AM #731394
barnaby33ParticipantNot going to argue there. Everyone wants to maintain the “dignity” of their brand and not dilute pricing. However what I’m commenting on is oriented more towards what I see for the general consumer as opposed to someone, like you or I who hunts and pecks. The implication being you’ve got to know what you are looking for to find those good deals.
To me though the great deals have largely disappeared, on current release items.
October 27, 2011 at 8:54 AM #731395barnaby33ParticipantSupposedly, early rains this year destroyed many grapes.
Where was this? I’ve heard that about Napa, but where else are you referring to?
Josh
October 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM #731403ParticipantSonoma too. I was talking to Steve Kanzler in early June and it was raining. I wont print what came out of his mouth. The winemalers I have spoken with are claioming quality will still be high but yields way down this year like last year. Of course, what else would they say?
October 27, 2011 at 12:32 PM #731414AK
ParticipantI’ve heard expats in France complain that truly good wines are either unaffordable or unavailable because of strong demand from (where else?) China. French wine has been a common business/personal gift in China for some time, so I guess it’s natural that with economic growth comes a taste for the good s***.
Maybe the new Chinese tax rules regarding business gifts will ameliorate the bifurcation. Not that it makes much of a difference to me. When I do drink an imported wine product it’s usually a fine $2.99 imported sangria.
October 27, 2011 at 12:59 PM #731416ParticipantYes China has killed the pricing on 1st growth Bourdeauxs but there are great deals everywhere else. Here’s something I just picked up today.
2006 Kuleto Estate Cab Sauvignon. Split 6 bottles with a friend and paid $25 each. Thats a great wine and a very reasonable price for that level of quality. Its up in South OC so we just have them hold it until we can swing by and save on shipping.
October 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM #731445CDMA ENG
ParticipantI am with Barnaby on the Italian wine statement.
I think the best value on high end wines lie with Italy. You can buy a 94 point Tuscany for t cheaper than you can buy a 91-92 point Super Cabs out of Napa. Bourdeauxs? Forgot it about it… Way to pricey and overvalued as a wine. It don’t mind though I am not keen on the taste charateristics on the Bourdeauxs anyway. Maybe I did not sample the right one but I spent a LOT of money on good ones while I was in Tahiti and was not impressed.
If you subscribe to wine spectator and several different wine sellers you can find great bargins on wine at the 25 dollar price point.
Nebbiolo… Yum!
CE
October 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM #731453ParticipantLove the Italians also but at the under $30 decent Brunello’s are tough to come by and Barolo’s impossible. Stick with Barbaresco’s
FWIW, that 2006 Kuleto Cab is easily a 92 pt wine. I also bought private labeled Cab from Howell Mountain yesterday that is probably 94 to 95 pt quality for $19.99.
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