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November 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM #18209November 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM #632384
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Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Looks like a $2 Billion construction project. That cant hurt the local construction economy.
http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-san-diego/scripps-will-rebuild-la-jolla-hospital%5B/quote%5D
The scapegoat for every ill is urban sprawl. If commutes weren’t 2 hours a day people would exercise (more) and we wouldn’t need so many hospitals. Instead I’m munching on a drumstick (both kinds) on my commute while blogging of course.How can they afford $2B? Wait, wait let me guess.
1) 5-10% yearly health care cost inflation that is been going on for last 10years?
2) Or is it more billing for medical procedures such as heart stents or full colonoscopies that are not scientifically proven better than other less costly, less invasive procedures in significant minority of cases? Sure I’m a nutcase, so are these guys below:
“In fact, the inventor of the colonoscopy, Al Neugut, wrote an editorial in the JAMA this summer (2010) stating that he regrets inventing the colonoscopy. On Marketplace, Neugut said “If today, we were where we were in 1988, I would not institute colonoscopy based on the current evidence.”
The gold standard of preventive medicine may only be golden from the point of view of physician salaries.”
Sigmoidoscopy: The colonoscopy’s cheaper, equally effective predecessor
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science:
Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their everyday practice?”http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
“In contrast, researchers who challenge a multibillion-dollar industry face intense pressures. A paper that cardiologist William Boden co-authored on the COURAGE trial (Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation) and published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 sparked widespread controversy. Both were randomized controlled studies that concluded that in patients with chronic stable chest pain, stents did not lower the risk for heart attack and death compared to medical therapy alone. Stents simply relieved their chest pain, Boden said.”
But why do hospitals burn research after reading? Could it be the the average $10,000 per stent procedure paid by insurance?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Issues/Health-Care/2010/04/26/The-High-Cost-of-Heart-Disease.aspx
New tool could prevent needless stents and save money, Stanford cardiologist says
http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/january/stent.htmlNovember 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM #632462equalizer
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Looks like a $2 Billion construction project. That cant hurt the local construction economy.
http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-san-diego/scripps-will-rebuild-la-jolla-hospital%5B/quote%5D
The scapegoat for every ill is urban sprawl. If commutes weren’t 2 hours a day people would exercise (more) and we wouldn’t need so many hospitals. Instead I’m munching on a drumstick (both kinds) on my commute while blogging of course.How can they afford $2B? Wait, wait let me guess.
1) 5-10% yearly health care cost inflation that is been going on for last 10years?
2) Or is it more billing for medical procedures such as heart stents or full colonoscopies that are not scientifically proven better than other less costly, less invasive procedures in significant minority of cases? Sure I’m a nutcase, so are these guys below:
“In fact, the inventor of the colonoscopy, Al Neugut, wrote an editorial in the JAMA this summer (2010) stating that he regrets inventing the colonoscopy. On Marketplace, Neugut said “If today, we were where we were in 1988, I would not institute colonoscopy based on the current evidence.”
The gold standard of preventive medicine may only be golden from the point of view of physician salaries.”
Sigmoidoscopy: The colonoscopy’s cheaper, equally effective predecessor
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science:
Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their everyday practice?”http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
“In contrast, researchers who challenge a multibillion-dollar industry face intense pressures. A paper that cardiologist William Boden co-authored on the COURAGE trial (Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation) and published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 sparked widespread controversy. Both were randomized controlled studies that concluded that in patients with chronic stable chest pain, stents did not lower the risk for heart attack and death compared to medical therapy alone. Stents simply relieved their chest pain, Boden said.”
But why do hospitals burn research after reading? Could it be the the average $10,000 per stent procedure paid by insurance?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Issues/Health-Care/2010/04/26/The-High-Cost-of-Heart-Disease.aspx
New tool could prevent needless stents and save money, Stanford cardiologist says
http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/january/stent.htmlNovember 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM #633035equalizer
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Looks like a $2 Billion construction project. That cant hurt the local construction economy.
http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-san-diego/scripps-will-rebuild-la-jolla-hospital%5B/quote%5D
The scapegoat for every ill is urban sprawl. If commutes weren’t 2 hours a day people would exercise (more) and we wouldn’t need so many hospitals. Instead I’m munching on a drumstick (both kinds) on my commute while blogging of course.How can they afford $2B? Wait, wait let me guess.
1) 5-10% yearly health care cost inflation that is been going on for last 10years?
2) Or is it more billing for medical procedures such as heart stents or full colonoscopies that are not scientifically proven better than other less costly, less invasive procedures in significant minority of cases? Sure I’m a nutcase, so are these guys below:
“In fact, the inventor of the colonoscopy, Al Neugut, wrote an editorial in the JAMA this summer (2010) stating that he regrets inventing the colonoscopy. On Marketplace, Neugut said “If today, we were where we were in 1988, I would not institute colonoscopy based on the current evidence.”
The gold standard of preventive medicine may only be golden from the point of view of physician salaries.”
Sigmoidoscopy: The colonoscopy’s cheaper, equally effective predecessor
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science:
Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their everyday practice?”http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
“In contrast, researchers who challenge a multibillion-dollar industry face intense pressures. A paper that cardiologist William Boden co-authored on the COURAGE trial (Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation) and published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 sparked widespread controversy. Both were randomized controlled studies that concluded that in patients with chronic stable chest pain, stents did not lower the risk for heart attack and death compared to medical therapy alone. Stents simply relieved their chest pain, Boden said.”
But why do hospitals burn research after reading? Could it be the the average $10,000 per stent procedure paid by insurance?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Issues/Health-Care/2010/04/26/The-High-Cost-of-Heart-Disease.aspx
New tool could prevent needless stents and save money, Stanford cardiologist says
http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/january/stent.htmlNovember 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM #633163equalizer
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Looks like a $2 Billion construction project. That cant hurt the local construction economy.
http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-san-diego/scripps-will-rebuild-la-jolla-hospital%5B/quote%5D
The scapegoat for every ill is urban sprawl. If commutes weren’t 2 hours a day people would exercise (more) and we wouldn’t need so many hospitals. Instead I’m munching on a drumstick (both kinds) on my commute while blogging of course.How can they afford $2B? Wait, wait let me guess.
1) 5-10% yearly health care cost inflation that is been going on for last 10years?
2) Or is it more billing for medical procedures such as heart stents or full colonoscopies that are not scientifically proven better than other less costly, less invasive procedures in significant minority of cases? Sure I’m a nutcase, so are these guys below:
“In fact, the inventor of the colonoscopy, Al Neugut, wrote an editorial in the JAMA this summer (2010) stating that he regrets inventing the colonoscopy. On Marketplace, Neugut said “If today, we were where we were in 1988, I would not institute colonoscopy based on the current evidence.”
The gold standard of preventive medicine may only be golden from the point of view of physician salaries.”
Sigmoidoscopy: The colonoscopy’s cheaper, equally effective predecessor
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science:
Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their everyday practice?”http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
“In contrast, researchers who challenge a multibillion-dollar industry face intense pressures. A paper that cardiologist William Boden co-authored on the COURAGE trial (Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation) and published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 sparked widespread controversy. Both were randomized controlled studies that concluded that in patients with chronic stable chest pain, stents did not lower the risk for heart attack and death compared to medical therapy alone. Stents simply relieved their chest pain, Boden said.”
But why do hospitals burn research after reading? Could it be the the average $10,000 per stent procedure paid by insurance?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Issues/Health-Care/2010/04/26/The-High-Cost-of-Heart-Disease.aspx
New tool could prevent needless stents and save money, Stanford cardiologist says
http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/january/stent.htmlNovember 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM #633481equalizer
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Looks like a $2 Billion construction project. That cant hurt the local construction economy.
http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-san-diego/scripps-will-rebuild-la-jolla-hospital%5B/quote%5D
The scapegoat for every ill is urban sprawl. If commutes weren’t 2 hours a day people would exercise (more) and we wouldn’t need so many hospitals. Instead I’m munching on a drumstick (both kinds) on my commute while blogging of course.How can they afford $2B? Wait, wait let me guess.
1) 5-10% yearly health care cost inflation that is been going on for last 10years?
2) Or is it more billing for medical procedures such as heart stents or full colonoscopies that are not scientifically proven better than other less costly, less invasive procedures in significant minority of cases? Sure I’m a nutcase, so are these guys below:
“In fact, the inventor of the colonoscopy, Al Neugut, wrote an editorial in the JAMA this summer (2010) stating that he regrets inventing the colonoscopy. On Marketplace, Neugut said “If today, we were where we were in 1988, I would not institute colonoscopy based on the current evidence.”
The gold standard of preventive medicine may only be golden from the point of view of physician salaries.”
Sigmoidoscopy: The colonoscopy’s cheaper, equally effective predecessor
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science:
Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their everyday practice?”http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
“In contrast, researchers who challenge a multibillion-dollar industry face intense pressures. A paper that cardiologist William Boden co-authored on the COURAGE trial (Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation) and published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 sparked widespread controversy. Both were randomized controlled studies that concluded that in patients with chronic stable chest pain, stents did not lower the risk for heart attack and death compared to medical therapy alone. Stents simply relieved their chest pain, Boden said.”
But why do hospitals burn research after reading? Could it be the the average $10,000 per stent procedure paid by insurance?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Issues/Health-Care/2010/04/26/The-High-Cost-of-Heart-Disease.aspx
New tool could prevent needless stents and save money, Stanford cardiologist says
http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/january/stent.htmlNovember 20, 2010 at 7:21 AM #632399sdrealtor
ParticipantIt’s required because of seismic retro-fitting. The $2B will be spent over 25 years.
November 20, 2010 at 7:21 AM #632477sdrealtor
ParticipantIt’s required because of seismic retro-fitting. The $2B will be spent over 25 years.
November 20, 2010 at 7:21 AM #633050sdrealtor
ParticipantIt’s required because of seismic retro-fitting. The $2B will be spent over 25 years.
November 20, 2010 at 7:21 AM #633178sdrealtor
ParticipantIt’s required because of seismic retro-fitting. The $2B will be spent over 25 years.
November 20, 2010 at 7:21 AM #633496sdrealtor
ParticipantIt’s required because of seismic retro-fitting. The $2B will be spent over 25 years.
November 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM #632424scaredyclassic
Participantmedicine is crazy. It seems like all the money is thrown at heroic life-saving measures at the end. We could set up a much healthier society much cheaper. I suppose some would argue that spending so much for a hsopital shows our dedication to human life. I doubt that. It’s more of a temple to technology and the hope for eventual triumph of the human mind over the forces of death and decay.
November 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM #632502scaredyclassic
Participantmedicine is crazy. It seems like all the money is thrown at heroic life-saving measures at the end. We could set up a much healthier society much cheaper. I suppose some would argue that spending so much for a hsopital shows our dedication to human life. I doubt that. It’s more of a temple to technology and the hope for eventual triumph of the human mind over the forces of death and decay.
November 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM #633075scaredyclassic
Participantmedicine is crazy. It seems like all the money is thrown at heroic life-saving measures at the end. We could set up a much healthier society much cheaper. I suppose some would argue that spending so much for a hsopital shows our dedication to human life. I doubt that. It’s more of a temple to technology and the hope for eventual triumph of the human mind over the forces of death and decay.
November 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM #633203scaredyclassic
Participantmedicine is crazy. It seems like all the money is thrown at heroic life-saving measures at the end. We could set up a much healthier society much cheaper. I suppose some would argue that spending so much for a hsopital shows our dedication to human life. I doubt that. It’s more of a temple to technology and the hope for eventual triumph of the human mind over the forces of death and decay.
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