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October 28, 2009 at 5:38 AM #16567October 28, 2009 at 6:26 AM #474554scaredyclassicParticipant
i’d say it’s more complex than that. obviously that summation is fairly inflammatory. on the other hand, i think men in our society have lost their way as men. This began to be very noticeable with men’s movement type writing like Robert Bly–a need for men to notice their manliness, to be more authentically male. back in the day of course, men were men, it was unquestioned. nowadays, it seems, a whole industry has sprung up on teaching men to be men. perhaps it’s a function of the quest for equality in the relationship, with men generally ending up on the losing side. perhaps the balance of negotiations, with divorce being the nuclear weapon of devastation, puts men in the position where, if they fear losing their family, believe appeasement and submission are better than financial and family devastation, with the wife always potentially being able to pull the trigger and win.
October 28, 2009 at 6:26 AM #474731scaredyclassicParticipanti’d say it’s more complex than that. obviously that summation is fairly inflammatory. on the other hand, i think men in our society have lost their way as men. This began to be very noticeable with men’s movement type writing like Robert Bly–a need for men to notice their manliness, to be more authentically male. back in the day of course, men were men, it was unquestioned. nowadays, it seems, a whole industry has sprung up on teaching men to be men. perhaps it’s a function of the quest for equality in the relationship, with men generally ending up on the losing side. perhaps the balance of negotiations, with divorce being the nuclear weapon of devastation, puts men in the position where, if they fear losing their family, believe appeasement and submission are better than financial and family devastation, with the wife always potentially being able to pull the trigger and win.
October 28, 2009 at 6:26 AM #475095scaredyclassicParticipanti’d say it’s more complex than that. obviously that summation is fairly inflammatory. on the other hand, i think men in our society have lost their way as men. This began to be very noticeable with men’s movement type writing like Robert Bly–a need for men to notice their manliness, to be more authentically male. back in the day of course, men were men, it was unquestioned. nowadays, it seems, a whole industry has sprung up on teaching men to be men. perhaps it’s a function of the quest for equality in the relationship, with men generally ending up on the losing side. perhaps the balance of negotiations, with divorce being the nuclear weapon of devastation, puts men in the position where, if they fear losing their family, believe appeasement and submission are better than financial and family devastation, with the wife always potentially being able to pull the trigger and win.
October 28, 2009 at 6:26 AM #475172scaredyclassicParticipanti’d say it’s more complex than that. obviously that summation is fairly inflammatory. on the other hand, i think men in our society have lost their way as men. This began to be very noticeable with men’s movement type writing like Robert Bly–a need for men to notice their manliness, to be more authentically male. back in the day of course, men were men, it was unquestioned. nowadays, it seems, a whole industry has sprung up on teaching men to be men. perhaps it’s a function of the quest for equality in the relationship, with men generally ending up on the losing side. perhaps the balance of negotiations, with divorce being the nuclear weapon of devastation, puts men in the position where, if they fear losing their family, believe appeasement and submission are better than financial and family devastation, with the wife always potentially being able to pull the trigger and win.
October 28, 2009 at 6:26 AM #475397scaredyclassicParticipanti’d say it’s more complex than that. obviously that summation is fairly inflammatory. on the other hand, i think men in our society have lost their way as men. This began to be very noticeable with men’s movement type writing like Robert Bly–a need for men to notice their manliness, to be more authentically male. back in the day of course, men were men, it was unquestioned. nowadays, it seems, a whole industry has sprung up on teaching men to be men. perhaps it’s a function of the quest for equality in the relationship, with men generally ending up on the losing side. perhaps the balance of negotiations, with divorce being the nuclear weapon of devastation, puts men in the position where, if they fear losing their family, believe appeasement and submission are better than financial and family devastation, with the wife always potentially being able to pull the trigger and win.
October 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM #474574CoronitaParticipant>I am not sure why men put up with this, but I guess the >bottom line is…
we don’t.
That’s why some men have a big commitment issue.
October 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM #474751CoronitaParticipant>I am not sure why men put up with this, but I guess the >bottom line is…
we don’t.
That’s why some men have a big commitment issue.
October 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM #475115CoronitaParticipant>I am not sure why men put up with this, but I guess the >bottom line is…
we don’t.
That’s why some men have a big commitment issue.
October 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM #475192CoronitaParticipant>I am not sure why men put up with this, but I guess the >bottom line is…
we don’t.
That’s why some men have a big commitment issue.
October 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM #475417CoronitaParticipant>I am not sure why men put up with this, but I guess the >bottom line is…
we don’t.
That’s why some men have a big commitment issue.
October 28, 2009 at 7:41 AM #474589sdduuuudeParticipantI can’t say this is the fault of the females.
You get what you settle for, I guess.October 28, 2009 at 7:41 AM #474766sdduuuudeParticipantI can’t say this is the fault of the females.
You get what you settle for, I guess.October 28, 2009 at 7:41 AM #475130sdduuuudeParticipantI can’t say this is the fault of the females.
You get what you settle for, I guess.October 28, 2009 at 7:41 AM #475206sdduuuudeParticipantI can’t say this is the fault of the females.
You get what you settle for, I guess. -
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