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May 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM #15779May 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM #407195SanDiegoDaveParticipant
Everybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.
May 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM #407891SanDiegoDaveParticipantEverybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.
May 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM #407743SanDiegoDaveParticipantEverybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.
May 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM #407679SanDiegoDaveParticipantEverybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.
May 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM #407438SanDiegoDaveParticipantEverybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.
May 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM #407748creechrrParticipantWasn’t some ludicrous amount of money spent on expansion what was then Jack Murphy Stadium? Didn’t the City end up loosing millions on ticket gurantees. Let the Chargers go!
So. Cal./San Diego fans are fickle. As soon as the wheels fall off the bandwagon the crowd goes home. The culture here is completely different cmopared to the midwest. Very few here would sit in the freezing cold to watch their team win or loose.
I personally vote for a motorsports park. We could have karting, autocross, drag racing, motocross all taking place at the same time. I know, pipe dream.
May 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM #407684creechrrParticipantWasn’t some ludicrous amount of money spent on expansion what was then Jack Murphy Stadium? Didn’t the City end up loosing millions on ticket gurantees. Let the Chargers go!
So. Cal./San Diego fans are fickle. As soon as the wheels fall off the bandwagon the crowd goes home. The culture here is completely different cmopared to the midwest. Very few here would sit in the freezing cold to watch their team win or loose.
I personally vote for a motorsports park. We could have karting, autocross, drag racing, motocross all taking place at the same time. I know, pipe dream.
May 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM #407896creechrrParticipantWasn’t some ludicrous amount of money spent on expansion what was then Jack Murphy Stadium? Didn’t the City end up loosing millions on ticket gurantees. Let the Chargers go!
So. Cal./San Diego fans are fickle. As soon as the wheels fall off the bandwagon the crowd goes home. The culture here is completely different cmopared to the midwest. Very few here would sit in the freezing cold to watch their team win or loose.
I personally vote for a motorsports park. We could have karting, autocross, drag racing, motocross all taking place at the same time. I know, pipe dream.
May 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM #407443creechrrParticipantWasn’t some ludicrous amount of money spent on expansion what was then Jack Murphy Stadium? Didn’t the City end up loosing millions on ticket gurantees. Let the Chargers go!
So. Cal./San Diego fans are fickle. As soon as the wheels fall off the bandwagon the crowd goes home. The culture here is completely different cmopared to the midwest. Very few here would sit in the freezing cold to watch their team win or loose.
I personally vote for a motorsports park. We could have karting, autocross, drag racing, motocross all taking place at the same time. I know, pipe dream.
May 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM #407200creechrrParticipantWasn’t some ludicrous amount of money spent on expansion what was then Jack Murphy Stadium? Didn’t the City end up loosing millions on ticket gurantees. Let the Chargers go!
So. Cal./San Diego fans are fickle. As soon as the wheels fall off the bandwagon the crowd goes home. The culture here is completely different cmopared to the midwest. Very few here would sit in the freezing cold to watch their team win or loose.
I personally vote for a motorsports park. We could have karting, autocross, drag racing, motocross all taking place at the same time. I know, pipe dream.
May 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM #407763DWCAPParticipant[quote=SanDiegoDave]Everybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.[/quote]
The point of the office parks, condo’s, hotels, or any of the other crap they wanna build is to defray the cost of building the stadium. Everyone in any way involved is too cheap to actually build the stadium, so they are trying to hide the costs in other building projects.
I say they build a parking structure on the fields behind Qcomm, give away free stuff to people who take the trolly and charge extra for parking to pay for it, and then build the new stadium right next to the old one in the parking lot. Tear down the old one, make it prefered parking (it would be closer to the stadium than the parking structure) and call it a day.The whole reason they want a new stadium is because they want more luxery boxes and prefered seating, and all the stuff that makes corporate sponsorship so profitable. So use that new stuff to pay for the new stadium, and stop trying to kid yourselves into thinking people are gonna drive to way inland Chula Vista just so you can hid/avoid your construction costs.
May 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM #407215DWCAPParticipant[quote=SanDiegoDave]Everybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.[/quote]
The point of the office parks, condo’s, hotels, or any of the other crap they wanna build is to defray the cost of building the stadium. Everyone in any way involved is too cheap to actually build the stadium, so they are trying to hide the costs in other building projects.
I say they build a parking structure on the fields behind Qcomm, give away free stuff to people who take the trolly and charge extra for parking to pay for it, and then build the new stadium right next to the old one in the parking lot. Tear down the old one, make it prefered parking (it would be closer to the stadium than the parking structure) and call it a day.The whole reason they want a new stadium is because they want more luxery boxes and prefered seating, and all the stuff that makes corporate sponsorship so profitable. So use that new stuff to pay for the new stadium, and stop trying to kid yourselves into thinking people are gonna drive to way inland Chula Vista just so you can hid/avoid your construction costs.
May 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM #407910DWCAPParticipant[quote=SanDiegoDave]Everybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.[/quote]
The point of the office parks, condo’s, hotels, or any of the other crap they wanna build is to defray the cost of building the stadium. Everyone in any way involved is too cheap to actually build the stadium, so they are trying to hide the costs in other building projects.
I say they build a parking structure on the fields behind Qcomm, give away free stuff to people who take the trolly and charge extra for parking to pay for it, and then build the new stadium right next to the old one in the parking lot. Tear down the old one, make it prefered parking (it would be closer to the stadium than the parking structure) and call it a day.The whole reason they want a new stadium is because they want more luxery boxes and prefered seating, and all the stuff that makes corporate sponsorship so profitable. So use that new stuff to pay for the new stadium, and stop trying to kid yourselves into thinking people are gonna drive to way inland Chula Vista just so you can hid/avoid your construction costs.
May 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM #407700DWCAPParticipant[quote=SanDiegoDave]Everybody in this whole stadium scenario is an idiot. The team. The Mayor. The city council. The developers. The whole lot of ’em.
The existing Qualcomm stadium land is the best place to build a new stadium. It is centrally located in the county, at the merger of all the major freeways and the trolley, just minutes from the airport & downtown, and nearby dozens of hotels. What f*cking more do they need?!?
Have any of these people bothered to look around at what other teams did when they built new stadiums? Nobody is asking for $1 billion to be spent on new office spaces and residential. What’s needed is a new stadium. Period.
The Chicago Bears built their new stadium at the exact same spot as the old Soldier Field. During that season, the Bears played at U of I-Urbana-Champaign. When the Green Bay Packers renovated Lambeau Field, they played at U of Wisconsin’s Badger stadium.
So I ask: What is the big deal about having the Chargers play up at the L.A. Coliseum for a season while Qualcomm gets demolished and rebuilt? If anything, it would expand the Chargers’ fan base.
Build a new stadium right at the same sight. Any other site is not optimal by comparison – not by a long shot.[/quote]
The point of the office parks, condo’s, hotels, or any of the other crap they wanna build is to defray the cost of building the stadium. Everyone in any way involved is too cheap to actually build the stadium, so they are trying to hide the costs in other building projects.
I say they build a parking structure on the fields behind Qcomm, give away free stuff to people who take the trolly and charge extra for parking to pay for it, and then build the new stadium right next to the old one in the parking lot. Tear down the old one, make it prefered parking (it would be closer to the stadium than the parking structure) and call it a day.The whole reason they want a new stadium is because they want more luxery boxes and prefered seating, and all the stuff that makes corporate sponsorship so profitable. So use that new stuff to pay for the new stadium, and stop trying to kid yourselves into thinking people are gonna drive to way inland Chula Vista just so you can hid/avoid your construction costs.
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