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  • December 31, 2008 at 12:14 AM #14721
    TheBreeze
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    Holy crap. If this is true, what a major layoff:

    The rumor that Microsoft was set to lay off people on January 15th, 2009 is no longer a rumor but a fact. Staff at Microsoft have been informed that the company is readying major layoffs to its worldwide operations and it’s not a small cut, either.

    Currently Microsoft employs about 90,000 people across the world and from what we’re hearing, some 15,000 of those are expected to be giving marching orders come January 15th. That’s almost 17 percent of Microsoft’s total work force, not exactly a small number.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11142&Itemid=1

    December 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM #321740
    5yearwaiter
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    If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.

    December 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM #322085
    5yearwaiter
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    If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.

    December 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM #322144
    5yearwaiter
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    If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.

    December 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM #322161
    5yearwaiter
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    If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.

    December 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM #322242
    5yearwaiter
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    If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.

    December 31, 2008 at 6:30 AM #321760
    Coronita
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    [quote=5yearwaiter]If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.[/quote]

    Not exactly. Bigger companies usually employ more redundancy and have much more fat to trim than smaller companies.

    It’s not exactly that microsoft has invented anything beyond garbage lately… Vista? Please…

    December 31, 2008 at 6:30 AM #322105
    Coronita
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    [quote=5yearwaiter]If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.[/quote]

    Not exactly. Bigger companies usually employ more redundancy and have much more fat to trim than smaller companies.

    It’s not exactly that microsoft has invented anything beyond garbage lately… Vista? Please…

    December 31, 2008 at 6:30 AM #322164
    Coronita
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    [quote=5yearwaiter]If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.[/quote]

    Not exactly. Bigger companies usually employ more redundancy and have much more fat to trim than smaller companies.

    It’s not exactly that microsoft has invented anything beyond garbage lately… Vista? Please…

    December 31, 2008 at 6:30 AM #322181
    Coronita
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    [quote=5yearwaiter]If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.[/quote]

    Not exactly. Bigger companies usually employ more redundancy and have much more fat to trim than smaller companies.

    It’s not exactly that microsoft has invented anything beyond garbage lately… Vista? Please…

    December 31, 2008 at 6:30 AM #322263
    Coronita
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    [quote=5yearwaiter]If Microsoft start 17% then we should expect more from smaller companies and the Job Loss is going to be a biggest issue than Housing now in US.[/quote]

    Not exactly. Bigger companies usually employ more redundancy and have much more fat to trim than smaller companies.

    It’s not exactly that microsoft has invented anything beyond garbage lately… Vista? Please…

    December 31, 2008 at 8:22 AM #321795
    UCGal
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    I’ve heard that they won’t do a straight layoff because they’d have to let the cheap labor go first (H1B visa folks). They don’t want to do that. So they’re going to reorg in a musical chairs fashion, and if you don’t have a job when the music stops, you’re out.

    H1B visa’s are to hire “skilled workers” who can’t be found among current residents. In theory, you have a hard time justifying hiring H1B folks if you’re laying off citizens and permanent residents with the same job title.

    As someone who works for an employer that hires a LOT of H1B visa programmers and is outsourcing to India like crazy, I see the logic to Microsoft’s plan – if this is true. My work group is currently about 25% H1B visa status employees.

    So, rather than do a full layoff – they’ll force the issue with reorgs. Cheaper labor in-house candidates will be grabbed up in the re-orgs. More expensive engineers/programmers will be looking around when the music stops.

    December 31, 2008 at 8:22 AM #322140
    UCGal
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    I’ve heard that they won’t do a straight layoff because they’d have to let the cheap labor go first (H1B visa folks). They don’t want to do that. So they’re going to reorg in a musical chairs fashion, and if you don’t have a job when the music stops, you’re out.

    H1B visa’s are to hire “skilled workers” who can’t be found among current residents. In theory, you have a hard time justifying hiring H1B folks if you’re laying off citizens and permanent residents with the same job title.

    As someone who works for an employer that hires a LOT of H1B visa programmers and is outsourcing to India like crazy, I see the logic to Microsoft’s plan – if this is true. My work group is currently about 25% H1B visa status employees.

    So, rather than do a full layoff – they’ll force the issue with reorgs. Cheaper labor in-house candidates will be grabbed up in the re-orgs. More expensive engineers/programmers will be looking around when the music stops.

    December 31, 2008 at 8:22 AM #322199
    UCGal
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    I’ve heard that they won’t do a straight layoff because they’d have to let the cheap labor go first (H1B visa folks). They don’t want to do that. So they’re going to reorg in a musical chairs fashion, and if you don’t have a job when the music stops, you’re out.

    H1B visa’s are to hire “skilled workers” who can’t be found among current residents. In theory, you have a hard time justifying hiring H1B folks if you’re laying off citizens and permanent residents with the same job title.

    As someone who works for an employer that hires a LOT of H1B visa programmers and is outsourcing to India like crazy, I see the logic to Microsoft’s plan – if this is true. My work group is currently about 25% H1B visa status employees.

    So, rather than do a full layoff – they’ll force the issue with reorgs. Cheaper labor in-house candidates will be grabbed up in the re-orgs. More expensive engineers/programmers will be looking around when the music stops.

    December 31, 2008 at 8:22 AM #322216
    UCGal
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    I’ve heard that they won’t do a straight layoff because they’d have to let the cheap labor go first (H1B visa folks). They don’t want to do that. So they’re going to reorg in a musical chairs fashion, and if you don’t have a job when the music stops, you’re out.

    H1B visa’s are to hire “skilled workers” who can’t be found among current residents. In theory, you have a hard time justifying hiring H1B folks if you’re laying off citizens and permanent residents with the same job title.

    As someone who works for an employer that hires a LOT of H1B visa programmers and is outsourcing to India like crazy, I see the logic to Microsoft’s plan – if this is true. My work group is currently about 25% H1B visa status employees.

    So, rather than do a full layoff – they’ll force the issue with reorgs. Cheaper labor in-house candidates will be grabbed up in the re-orgs. More expensive engineers/programmers will be looking around when the music stops.

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