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  • October 30, 2008 at 5:45 PM #14326
    raptorduck
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    I have been lurking, but I have not posted here in a long time. Frankly, people seemed to stop talking about housing and I kept seeing OT: next to every topic with all the Obama/McCain talk and other topics.

    Well, going with the flow I have an OT of my own, the old Satellite vs. Cable saga. I have always seen cable and satellite companies advertise the differences between them always arguing that theirs was way better than the other. Now that I have had both here is my opinion.

    Cable totally and completely stinks and is not as good as satellite was 15 yrs ago, let alone today.

    I had cable in the 1980’s. It was fine, I thought it cool and no complaints. Ignorance is bliss. Then I found satellite. Step up I thought. I was a DishNetwork customer for years. Never a single complaint. Never a down connection due to “solar flares” a cable favorite nit on satellite. Not one call to tech customer service until they had some problems with some network contracts and I switched to DirectTV. Years with them and not one single problem either. Never a down connnection, nothing. Perfect reception 24/7 in thunderstorms even (another popular nit from cable). It worked perfectlly and when I did need service in the form of new recievers and dishes and upgrades, their customer service was exemplary. It was a quality product with quality service for a reasonable price. I upgraded to their HD service and got a truck full of HD channels in addition to the already rich choice of channels. Even their DVR was awesome.

    So I decided to move to SD and of course wanted satellite. Unfortunately Cox cable has some sort of monopoly down here and though we tried to get DirectTV in RSF we could not (interesting story for another day, but you won’t find many satellite dishes in Fairbanks Ranch). So I reluctantly did not go with DirectTV and switched to the only other choice, Cox Cable.

    Hate it! Here’s why.
    1. Fewer channel choices for more $$.
    2. The quality of cable’s HD channels is “MUCH” lower than satellite’s HD. This was a total surprise.
    3. WAY WAY fewer HD channels with cable to boot.
    4. Lousy signals and connections.
    5. Horrible service with lazy, incompetent, and occasionally rude service people (not all of them though). God help you if you need the cable stapled to a wall or put into it or not run down the middle of a room. Must be against union rules to actually put more than minimum crapy effort.
    6. I have had them out to fix a down connection, dead reciever, poor signal not less than 8 times in 3 months and I need them out again.

    Overall, it is just horrible quality of product and quality of service and it cost MORE than satellite!

    I am stuck with cable though. Other than the service quality, had I never seen the high quality of satellite, I would never be the wiser as to how yesterday’s technology cable is.

    They adverstise as being better than satellite. What they don’t tell you is that they are referring to satellite as it existed in the 1950’s.

    So IMHO is cable better than satellite. NOT A CHANCE. DirectTV or DishNetwork are 100 times better, in quality of product and quality of service. They were even decent to me as I left them as a loyal customer.

    I don’t usually post things like this, but I am so underwealmed by Cox and get so angry by their false advertising of superior quality and service in their commercials that I needed to call them out somewhere just to feel some sort of redemption. I am at the mercy of their crapy service and quality and they know it. When you have no competition and have captive customers, crappy service is the name of the game.

    There, I feel a little better now. This has just been eating away at me like an RSF Black Widdow with attitude. Maybe if enough people on this board switch to satellite, DirectTV will find a way to overcome the Cox mafia in FBR.

    DISCLAIMER: THE ABOVE IS THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND AN EXERCISE OF HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. THE AUTHOR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MODIFY HIS COMMENTS TO “NOT SO GOOD” FROM “TOTALLY SUCKS” IF COX RETALIATES BY CUTTING OFF HIS CRAPPY SERVICE COMPLETELY OR TO “CABLE ROCKS” IF COX PAYS DIRECTTV TO INSTALL SATELLITE IN THE AUTHOR’S HOME.

    p.s. If you live in Fairbanks Ranch and have DirectTV I want to talk with you.

    October 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM #295409
    afx114
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    I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.

    October 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM #295820
    afx114
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    I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.

    October 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM #295747
    afx114
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    I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.

    October 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM #295769
    afx114
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    I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.

    October 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM #295781
    afx114
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    I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.

    October 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM #295429
    nostradamus
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    [quote=afx114]I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.[/quote]
    I agree, I can watch the shows I want, when I want, on the computer. I don’t go through iTunes, most of the shows I want are free and readily available.

    BTW has anyone else been getting harassed by AT&T salesmen? They’ve called, mailed, set up a table in my complex, and have come to my door 4 times.

    October 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM #295841
    nostradamus
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    [quote=afx114]I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.[/quote]
    I agree, I can watch the shows I want, when I want, on the computer. I don’t go through iTunes, most of the shows I want are free and readily available.

    BTW has anyone else been getting harassed by AT&T salesmen? They’ve called, mailed, set up a table in my complex, and have come to my door 4 times.

    October 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM #295802
    nostradamus
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    [quote=afx114]I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.[/quote]
    I agree, I can watch the shows I want, when I want, on the computer. I don’t go through iTunes, most of the shows I want are free and readily available.

    BTW has anyone else been getting harassed by AT&T salesmen? They’ve called, mailed, set up a table in my complex, and have come to my door 4 times.

    October 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM #295767
    nostradamus
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    [quote=afx114]I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.[/quote]
    I agree, I can watch the shows I want, when I want, on the computer. I don’t go through iTunes, most of the shows I want are free and readily available.

    BTW has anyone else been getting harassed by AT&T salesmen? They’ve called, mailed, set up a table in my complex, and have come to my door 4 times.

    October 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM #295789
    nostradamus
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    [quote=afx114]I’ll tell you what, now that iTunes/AppleTV serves TV shows in Hi-def, I’ve considered dumping cable all together. I only watch a handful of shows, so cable often seems like a waste to me. Why pay so much money when I only use maybe 5% of what I’m paying for? I can save a shit-ton of money by ordering TV shows a-la-cart on iTunes. I’m just waiting for the library to expand a bit before I make that jump.[/quote]
    I agree, I can watch the shows I want, when I want, on the computer. I don’t go through iTunes, most of the shows I want are free and readily available.

    BTW has anyone else been getting harassed by AT&T salesmen? They’ve called, mailed, set up a table in my complex, and have come to my door 4 times.

    October 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM #295831
    Eugene
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    I’ve been using a FTA receiver for the last few months. Got it just in time for the Olympics. The receiver with DVR capability (non-HD) was just over $100, there are cheaper receivers on Craigslist. The dish was $25, and I had an old LNB that I forgot to return a while back.

    Periodic outages whenever DN changes their encryption are annoying, they happen roughly once a week, and it takes 12-36 hours for a new firmware to appear whenever the encryption is changed. But I don’t watch TV all that much and I’m quite pleased with what I’m getting. You can get around 200 major channels and a number of pay-per-view programs (sport, movies, adult) with a single dish and two LNBs looking at satellites 110 and 119. The satellite 148 has a wide range of regional and international channels.

    If you can live without HD and with frequent outages, that’s a possible route. If you want HD channels, you’d have to get an expensive FTA receiver ($300+), so it may not make as much financial sense.

    Edit: ah, you live in Fairbanks Ranch … nevermind then.

    October 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM #295871
    Eugene
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    I’ve been using a FTA receiver for the last few months. Got it just in time for the Olympics. The receiver with DVR capability (non-HD) was just over $100, there are cheaper receivers on Craigslist. The dish was $25, and I had an old LNB that I forgot to return a while back.

    Periodic outages whenever DN changes their encryption are annoying, they happen roughly once a week, and it takes 12-36 hours for a new firmware to appear whenever the encryption is changed. But I don’t watch TV all that much and I’m quite pleased with what I’m getting. You can get around 200 major channels and a number of pay-per-view programs (sport, movies, adult) with a single dish and two LNBs looking at satellites 110 and 119. The satellite 148 has a wide range of regional and international channels.

    If you can live without HD and with frequent outages, that’s a possible route. If you want HD channels, you’d have to get an expensive FTA receiver ($300+), so it may not make as much financial sense.

    Edit: ah, you live in Fairbanks Ranch … nevermind then.

    October 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM #295819
    Eugene
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    I’ve been using a FTA receiver for the last few months. Got it just in time for the Olympics. The receiver with DVR capability (non-HD) was just over $100, there are cheaper receivers on Craigslist. The dish was $25, and I had an old LNB that I forgot to return a while back.

    Periodic outages whenever DN changes their encryption are annoying, they happen roughly once a week, and it takes 12-36 hours for a new firmware to appear whenever the encryption is changed. But I don’t watch TV all that much and I’m quite pleased with what I’m getting. You can get around 200 major channels and a number of pay-per-view programs (sport, movies, adult) with a single dish and two LNBs looking at satellites 110 and 119. The satellite 148 has a wide range of regional and international channels.

    If you can live without HD and with frequent outages, that’s a possible route. If you want HD channels, you’d have to get an expensive FTA receiver ($300+), so it may not make as much financial sense.

    Edit: ah, you live in Fairbanks Ranch … nevermind then.

    October 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM #295797
    Eugene
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    I’ve been using a FTA receiver for the last few months. Got it just in time for the Olympics. The receiver with DVR capability (non-HD) was just over $100, there are cheaper receivers on Craigslist. The dish was $25, and I had an old LNB that I forgot to return a while back.

    Periodic outages whenever DN changes their encryption are annoying, they happen roughly once a week, and it takes 12-36 hours for a new firmware to appear whenever the encryption is changed. But I don’t watch TV all that much and I’m quite pleased with what I’m getting. You can get around 200 major channels and a number of pay-per-view programs (sport, movies, adult) with a single dish and two LNBs looking at satellites 110 and 119. The satellite 148 has a wide range of regional and international channels.

    If you can live without HD and with frequent outages, that’s a possible route. If you want HD channels, you’d have to get an expensive FTA receiver ($300+), so it may not make as much financial sense.

    Edit: ah, you live in Fairbanks Ranch … nevermind then.

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