I hear ya Allan but mission creep is a b*tch. Didn’t vietnam start with “advisors” just there to train and assist the locals? The main reason to be there is to keep an eye on those nukes! God knows where those are gonna end up.

Yep that’s terrible about Bhutto. Musharraf has been effectively dictator for some time. He’s pretty good as dictators go, though. Dictators have a bad rep but sometimes they’re the best possible option for these f***d up countries. I think someday people are gonna wish they had Saddam back. Like they used to say about another famous and cruel dictator, at least he made the trains run on time…