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  • February 11, 2008 at 9:39 PM #11792
    renterclint
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    With Obama seeming to gain more traction through the latest primaries , I’m starting to believe he may actually have real shot a winning.

    Then I remember that I live in a right-winged wacky redneck country who voted “W” into office twice. With Bush’s second win affording him a “mandating” majority vote as we waged a failed war.

    Are these same backward conservative nut-jobs (who would rather vote a 72 year old war monger into office) really ready for a minority president? I recently read that Obama was granted government-funded secret service protection earlier than any presidential candidate in history due to magnitude of death threats he has received.

    I hate to bring up such a tragically pessimistic topic, but I was just wondering if any of you out there would consider safety of a presidential candidate as a factor when casting your vote. If nothing else, would it raise the importance of his running mate in your view?

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #151769
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #152129
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #152058
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #152042
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #152036
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 9:44 PM #152035
    Casca
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    This is an educational site, but there are those who remain invincibly ignorant. I shall not feed the troll.

    February 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM #152256
    luchabee
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    Yes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.

    On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.

    He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)

    February 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM #152184
    luchabee
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    Yes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.

    On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.

    He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)

    February 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM #152167
    luchabee
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    Yes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.

    On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.

    He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)

    February 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM #152160
    luchabee
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    Yes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.

    On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.

    He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)

    February 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM #151891
    luchabee
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    Yes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.

    On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.

    He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)

    February 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM #151901
    renterclint
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    Okay. Admittedly, I delivered the question in a smartalecky way, and I let my frustration w/ the religious right get the best of me sometimes.

    But sincerely, with the field narrowing to the two candidates, I’ve started reading & watching a lot about Obama. He is definitely a charismatic guy & a talented, moving speaker. But on the other hand, he is also a bit of an enigma – maybe even a sort of cult of personality.

    He has so little experience… a couple of terms in the state senate & a partial term as a US senator. Kennedy had very little experience when he ran for president too. When Obama speaks in the debates, something about his style reminds me of JFK. When he gave his victory speach after Iowa, he had this really energy-packed, passionate delivery that to me seems reminiscent of the old films of Martin Luther King Jr.

    As I watch and learn about this guy, the more I get interested and start thinking about what a change this person could bring to our government. Not to sound too corn-ball, but I start to wonder if this excitement & mobilization of new voters is the same kind of experience that my parents witnessed when they followed the Kennedys & King.

    Especially after reading the article about the hightened security around Obama, I guess the fatalist in me couldn’t help but wonder if this movement that he has created might be met with the same sort of opposition that these heroes from the 60’s encountered. I don’t believe there has been real threat against a president since Reagan, but are our leaders any more protected now?

    Casca, I apologize if the topic & the way I posed the question made you feel like you had to respond by questioning my intelligence & accusing me of being a troll. I’ve been coming to this sight for a long time, and usually I keep my comments confined to housing & banking.

    I sincerely was curious to see if anyone else had noticed the similarities I had seen & had like concerns.

    If the topic makes you feel uncomfortable or you feel offended, by all means please ignore this post.

    February 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM #152194
    renterclint
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    Okay. Admittedly, I delivered the question in a smartalecky way, and I let my frustration w/ the religious right get the best of me sometimes.

    But sincerely, with the field narrowing to the two candidates, I’ve started reading & watching a lot about Obama. He is definitely a charismatic guy & a talented, moving speaker. But on the other hand, he is also a bit of an enigma – maybe even a sort of cult of personality.

    He has so little experience… a couple of terms in the state senate & a partial term as a US senator. Kennedy had very little experience when he ran for president too. When Obama speaks in the debates, something about his style reminds me of JFK. When he gave his victory speach after Iowa, he had this really energy-packed, passionate delivery that to me seems reminiscent of the old films of Martin Luther King Jr.

    As I watch and learn about this guy, the more I get interested and start thinking about what a change this person could bring to our government. Not to sound too corn-ball, but I start to wonder if this excitement & mobilization of new voters is the same kind of experience that my parents witnessed when they followed the Kennedys & King.

    Especially after reading the article about the hightened security around Obama, I guess the fatalist in me couldn’t help but wonder if this movement that he has created might be met with the same sort of opposition that these heroes from the 60’s encountered. I don’t believe there has been real threat against a president since Reagan, but are our leaders any more protected now?

    Casca, I apologize if the topic & the way I posed the question made you feel like you had to respond by questioning my intelligence & accusing me of being a troll. I’ve been coming to this sight for a long time, and usually I keep my comments confined to housing & banking.

    I sincerely was curious to see if anyone else had noticed the similarities I had seen & had like concerns.

    If the topic makes you feel uncomfortable or you feel offended, by all means please ignore this post.

    February 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM #152168
    renterclint
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    Okay. Admittedly, I delivered the question in a smartalecky way, and I let my frustration w/ the religious right get the best of me sometimes.

    But sincerely, with the field narrowing to the two candidates, I’ve started reading & watching a lot about Obama. He is definitely a charismatic guy & a talented, moving speaker. But on the other hand, he is also a bit of an enigma – maybe even a sort of cult of personality.

    He has so little experience… a couple of terms in the state senate & a partial term as a US senator. Kennedy had very little experience when he ran for president too. When Obama speaks in the debates, something about his style reminds me of JFK. When he gave his victory speach after Iowa, he had this really energy-packed, passionate delivery that to me seems reminiscent of the old films of Martin Luther King Jr.

    As I watch and learn about this guy, the more I get interested and start thinking about what a change this person could bring to our government. Not to sound too corn-ball, but I start to wonder if this excitement & mobilization of new voters is the same kind of experience that my parents witnessed when they followed the Kennedys & King.

    Especially after reading the article about the hightened security around Obama, I guess the fatalist in me couldn’t help but wonder if this movement that he has created might be met with the same sort of opposition that these heroes from the 60’s encountered. I don’t believe there has been real threat against a president since Reagan, but are our leaders any more protected now?

    Casca, I apologize if the topic & the way I posed the question made you feel like you had to respond by questioning my intelligence & accusing me of being a troll. I’ve been coming to this sight for a long time, and usually I keep my comments confined to housing & banking.

    I sincerely was curious to see if anyone else had noticed the similarities I had seen & had like concerns.

    If the topic makes you feel uncomfortable or you feel offended, by all means please ignore this post.

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