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October 24, 2007 at 9:28 AM #10710October 24, 2007 at 10:01 AM #91331
betting on fall
ParticipantAnd don’t forget that everyone’s fire insurance rates will probably be going up. Just like Florida homeowners policies after multiple hurricanes there.
October 24, 2007 at 10:01 AM #91353betting on fall
ParticipantAnd don’t forget that everyone’s fire insurance rates will probably be going up. Just like Florida homeowners policies after multiple hurricanes there.
October 24, 2007 at 10:01 AM #91365betting on fall
ParticipantAnd don’t forget that everyone’s fire insurance rates will probably be going up. Just like Florida homeowners policies after multiple hurricanes there.
October 24, 2007 at 11:03 AM #91354meadandale
ParticipantIt’s funny. I was recently talking to a friend of mine, who is a General Contractor, about the price that people were charging to come and do minor remodeling work.
He said, ‘wait a few months and people will be begging for work. Everything is drying up’.
Not a week later and over a thousand homes burn down opening up work for contractors everywhere.
I’m not a conspiracy nut but it sure seems to be ‘good timing’ for keeping these people employed as the housing market and the affiliated work was becoming a memory.
October 24, 2007 at 11:03 AM #91379meadandale
ParticipantIt’s funny. I was recently talking to a friend of mine, who is a General Contractor, about the price that people were charging to come and do minor remodeling work.
He said, ‘wait a few months and people will be begging for work. Everything is drying up’.
Not a week later and over a thousand homes burn down opening up work for contractors everywhere.
I’m not a conspiracy nut but it sure seems to be ‘good timing’ for keeping these people employed as the housing market and the affiliated work was becoming a memory.
October 24, 2007 at 11:03 AM #91391meadandale
ParticipantIt’s funny. I was recently talking to a friend of mine, who is a General Contractor, about the price that people were charging to come and do minor remodeling work.
He said, ‘wait a few months and people will be begging for work. Everything is drying up’.
Not a week later and over a thousand homes burn down opening up work for contractors everywhere.
I’m not a conspiracy nut but it sure seems to be ‘good timing’ for keeping these people employed as the housing market and the affiliated work was becoming a memory.
October 24, 2007 at 1:52 PM #91448Duck
ParticipantYou state that the money would have gone elsewhere. That’s not true. The money will come from insurance companies, none of which are located in San Diego. The insurance companies will in turn raise rates all over the country not just in SD.
October 24, 2007 at 1:52 PM #91472Duck
ParticipantYou state that the money would have gone elsewhere. That’s not true. The money will come from insurance companies, none of which are located in San Diego. The insurance companies will in turn raise rates all over the country not just in SD.
October 24, 2007 at 1:52 PM #91484Duck
ParticipantYou state that the money would have gone elsewhere. That’s not true. The money will come from insurance companies, none of which are located in San Diego. The insurance companies will in turn raise rates all over the country not just in SD.
October 24, 2007 at 3:43 PM #91476(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantDuck is correct. There will be an influx of dollars from insurance companies that was formerly going to buy bonds and other securities. In the short run this includes funds for temporary housing, as well as goods lost in the fires. Later on this will be funds for construction. This will be far greater than the temporary interruptions to businesses that are occuring this week.
So, although you are correct that it is a net loss globally, it’s a net plus for the region.
October 24, 2007 at 3:43 PM #91513(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantDuck is correct. There will be an influx of dollars from insurance companies that was formerly going to buy bonds and other securities. In the short run this includes funds for temporary housing, as well as goods lost in the fires. Later on this will be funds for construction. This will be far greater than the temporary interruptions to businesses that are occuring this week.
So, although you are correct that it is a net loss globally, it’s a net plus for the region.
October 24, 2007 at 3:43 PM #91500(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantDuck is correct. There will be an influx of dollars from insurance companies that was formerly going to buy bonds and other securities. In the short run this includes funds for temporary housing, as well as goods lost in the fires. Later on this will be funds for construction. This will be far greater than the temporary interruptions to businesses that are occuring this week.
So, although you are correct that it is a net loss globally, it’s a net plus for the region.
October 25, 2007 at 9:20 AM #91695RottedOak
ParticipantYou are correct that insurance companies will pull most of their payout funds from other areas (definitely a net loss globally). However, not all losses are insured, and not all insurance funds will be spent locally. Some of the insured will take the money and leave. And the insurers will make up for their payouts with rate increases that will drain money from the area. Nor is the economic disruption limited to “this week.” All of the effort that goes into rebuilding over the next several years — the arguing with insurance companies, the permit processes, hiring contractors, etc. — is a diversion for the homeowners. Some of that (all the overhead for dealing with insurers and government) is pure loss with no net production. If you focus narrowly enough, you can find “winners,” but even with a temporary inflow of insurance money, I doubt the long-term result will be a net gain for the region.
October 25, 2007 at 9:20 AM #91720RottedOak
ParticipantYou are correct that insurance companies will pull most of their payout funds from other areas (definitely a net loss globally). However, not all losses are insured, and not all insurance funds will be spent locally. Some of the insured will take the money and leave. And the insurers will make up for their payouts with rate increases that will drain money from the area. Nor is the economic disruption limited to “this week.” All of the effort that goes into rebuilding over the next several years — the arguing with insurance companies, the permit processes, hiring contractors, etc. — is a diversion for the homeowners. Some of that (all the overhead for dealing with insurers and government) is pure loss with no net production. If you focus narrowly enough, you can find “winners,” but even with a temporary inflow of insurance money, I doubt the long-term result will be a net gain for the region.
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