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October 12, 2007 at 2:34 AM #10584October 12, 2007 at 6:13 AM #88337Alex_angelParticipant
Typical moron home owner. They move upstairs from a restaurant and complain about the smell of food. They move next door to a nightclub and complain about the loud music. They move next to an airport and complain about the planes.
October 12, 2007 at 6:13 AM #88344Alex_angelParticipantTypical moron home owner. They move upstairs from a restaurant and complain about the smell of food. They move next door to a nightclub and complain about the loud music. They move next to an airport and complain about the planes.
October 12, 2007 at 6:51 AM #88349BugsParticipantThe sales offices for each of the “communities” at Bressi all included notice – posted on the walls next to the door – that the project was located near an airport and is subject to air traffic noise. Nobody buying in Bressi could have not known they were moving a couple hundred yards south of the landing pattern for Palomar.
What the developers at Bressi never explained to their buyers was that the north and west sides of the project would be eventually built out with concrete tilt-up industrials and office condos. The developers deliberately waited until the residential portion of the project was sold off before they even started grading the commercial side.
Had the buyers who were paying $150,000 for the “view amenity” looking to the west realized that view would be of industrial buildings I don’t think they would have been so anxious to pay it.
Personally, I don’t think increasing the air traffic at Palomar will do any more damage to the values or marketability at Bressi than what they already had.
October 12, 2007 at 6:51 AM #88355BugsParticipantThe sales offices for each of the “communities” at Bressi all included notice – posted on the walls next to the door – that the project was located near an airport and is subject to air traffic noise. Nobody buying in Bressi could have not known they were moving a couple hundred yards south of the landing pattern for Palomar.
What the developers at Bressi never explained to their buyers was that the north and west sides of the project would be eventually built out with concrete tilt-up industrials and office condos. The developers deliberately waited until the residential portion of the project was sold off before they even started grading the commercial side.
Had the buyers who were paying $150,000 for the “view amenity” looking to the west realized that view would be of industrial buildings I don’t think they would have been so anxious to pay it.
Personally, I don’t think increasing the air traffic at Palomar will do any more damage to the values or marketability at Bressi than what they already had.
October 12, 2007 at 8:27 AM #88386ocrenterParticipantbugs, you are right… but…
several times we went to Bressi the sales staff had some type of “sale” or “incentive” display placed coincidentally over the plaque that stated the airport noise alert.
just an interesting note, that’s all…
October 12, 2007 at 8:27 AM #88391ocrenterParticipantbugs, you are right… but…
several times we went to Bressi the sales staff had some type of “sale” or “incentive” display placed coincidentally over the plaque that stated the airport noise alert.
just an interesting note, that’s all…
October 12, 2007 at 8:31 AM #88388patientlywaitingParticipantAs I said in a separate thread, I love the convenice of Palomar.
Lindberg is busy and could use relief. We could easily land the smaller aircrafts at Palomar instead of Lindberg and keep Lindberg as the principal airport. Why build a new airport when we can improve the use of our existing facilities.
Tough luck for the people who live near Palomar. Like bugs said, they should have known. The Bressi folks were too blinded by potential appreciation and the “opportunity” to by that they threw due diligence out the window. They should have contacted the city about the commercial development to the west of Bressi and the County about the airport.
October 12, 2007 at 8:31 AM #88393patientlywaitingParticipantAs I said in a separate thread, I love the convenice of Palomar.
Lindberg is busy and could use relief. We could easily land the smaller aircrafts at Palomar instead of Lindberg and keep Lindberg as the principal airport. Why build a new airport when we can improve the use of our existing facilities.
Tough luck for the people who live near Palomar. Like bugs said, they should have known. The Bressi folks were too blinded by potential appreciation and the “opportunity” to by that they threw due diligence out the window. They should have contacted the city about the commercial development to the west of Bressi and the County about the airport.
October 12, 2007 at 8:44 AM #88394sdrealtorParticipantI’m flying to Puerto Vallarta in December for a family vacation and the flights were actually $250 cheaper person than from any other airport in SoCal between SD and LAX. Best of all, free parking, no waiting for luggage on return and back home in 5 to 10 minutes. We love that airport.
BTW, when Bressi opened my wife and I went for a look. When we got out of our car we stood in parking lot for 5 minutes. There was a plane coming in nearly every 30 seconds. We didnt even bother to go into the models after that. How could they not have known?
October 12, 2007 at 8:44 AM #88399sdrealtorParticipantI’m flying to Puerto Vallarta in December for a family vacation and the flights were actually $250 cheaper person than from any other airport in SoCal between SD and LAX. Best of all, free parking, no waiting for luggage on return and back home in 5 to 10 minutes. We love that airport.
BTW, when Bressi opened my wife and I went for a look. When we got out of our car we stood in parking lot for 5 minutes. There was a plane coming in nearly every 30 seconds. We didnt even bother to go into the models after that. How could they not have known?
October 13, 2007 at 6:51 AM #88651BubblesitterParticipantYes the Palomar airport is convenient, I’m looking forward to perhaps taking flights out to Vegas and Tahoe next year.
I don’t know if pricing of the airport expansion/noise is factored into the current prices at Bressi Ranch. Gotta be at least a $100-150K discount over equivalent “no noise” location. What were those folks thinking?
When did that development see majority of its build-out? In the 2004-2006 timeframe? There’s gotta be a large % of risky loans and investors in there holding on hoping for a market turn-around.
October 13, 2007 at 6:51 AM #88658BubblesitterParticipantYes the Palomar airport is convenient, I’m looking forward to perhaps taking flights out to Vegas and Tahoe next year.
I don’t know if pricing of the airport expansion/noise is factored into the current prices at Bressi Ranch. Gotta be at least a $100-150K discount over equivalent “no noise” location. What were those folks thinking?
When did that development see majority of its build-out? In the 2004-2006 timeframe? There’s gotta be a large % of risky loans and investors in there holding on hoping for a market turn-around.
November 25, 2007 at 9:31 AM #103362BubblesitterParticipantfyi, update on the new terminal
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/11/20/news/coastal/2_01_2111_19_07.txt
Looks to be a large terminal with restaurants.
I just took a short commuter flight from LA down to Palomar airport. Nice hopper, beats flying into SAN and fighting traffic going north on the 5.
Bubblesitter
November 25, 2007 at 9:31 AM #103443BubblesitterParticipantfyi, update on the new terminal
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/11/20/news/coastal/2_01_2111_19_07.txt
Looks to be a large terminal with restaurants.
I just took a short commuter flight from LA down to Palomar airport. Nice hopper, beats flying into SAN and fighting traffic going north on the 5.
Bubblesitter
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