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October 9, 2007 at 12:19 PM #10543October 9, 2007 at 12:23 PM #87564betting on fallParticipant
This chart won’t tell you exactly what it is spent on, but it will tell you who gets it:
http://www.co.san-diego.ca.us/ttc/insert_allocated.htmlOctober 9, 2007 at 12:23 PM #87569betting on fallParticipantThis chart won’t tell you exactly what it is spent on, but it will tell you who gets it:
http://www.co.san-diego.ca.us/ttc/insert_allocated.htmlOctober 9, 2007 at 2:12 PM #87602FoamFinger1ParticipantThe money gets buried in a big hole outside Sac. Unfortunately, nobody kept a map of all the hiding spots.
October 9, 2007 at 2:12 PM #87607FoamFinger1ParticipantThe money gets buried in a big hole outside Sac. Unfortunately, nobody kept a map of all the hiding spots.
October 9, 2007 at 2:21 PM #87604NonbelieverParticipantCome guys. Haven’t you all noticed the four fold increase in the number of Police, Fire, and other civil service personnel around making your lives better and safer? I am sure all of that extra money has found its way into the hands of people who do not need it and likely misuse it. Although, maybe aside from all of the foreclosures going on, tax lien sales could start to sprout up more? After all, the city HAS to have its money in order to keep funcitoning, right?
October 9, 2007 at 2:21 PM #87609NonbelieverParticipantCome guys. Haven’t you all noticed the four fold increase in the number of Police, Fire, and other civil service personnel around making your lives better and safer? I am sure all of that extra money has found its way into the hands of people who do not need it and likely misuse it. Although, maybe aside from all of the foreclosures going on, tax lien sales could start to sprout up more? After all, the city HAS to have its money in order to keep funcitoning, right?
October 9, 2007 at 4:19 PM #87634nostradamusParticipantHey that chart doesn’t show the billions allocated to our sports teams!
October 9, 2007 at 4:19 PM #87639nostradamusParticipantHey that chart doesn’t show the billions allocated to our sports teams!
October 9, 2007 at 4:32 PM #87640jennyoParticipantLocal property tax revenue surpluses have largely been used to hire more public safety employees and to increase the salaries/benefits of those employees over the past few years, to probably unsustainable levels. San Diego is the poster child for this. Local public safety agencies statewide have been playing leapfrog with salaries and benefits for police and fire for several years. Most safety employees can retire at 50 with 3 percent of their highest salary for every year worked, plus lifetime medical benefits. Many of these employees get disability retirements due to the strenuous nature of their jobs and therefore only have to pay income tax on 50 percent of their pension income.
The state gets very little property tax, its revenues come from the “big 3”–the personal income tax, the sales tax, and corporation tax. That (among other reasons) is why the state continued to face structural deficits even when real estate was booming from 2001-2005. Income tax revenues are very volatile. The locals have been riding a gravy train since 2001 and are going to start howling soon because the revenue growth has come to a halt. The smart ones, that spent the funds on one-time purposes like infrastructure improvements or set aside rainy-day funds will be fine. But those that expanded safety employee benefits are in for some hard times, with few options for cutting costs. Trying to reduce or eliminate pension benefits from public safety “heroes” is political suicide.
October 9, 2007 at 4:32 PM #87644jennyoParticipantLocal property tax revenue surpluses have largely been used to hire more public safety employees and to increase the salaries/benefits of those employees over the past few years, to probably unsustainable levels. San Diego is the poster child for this. Local public safety agencies statewide have been playing leapfrog with salaries and benefits for police and fire for several years. Most safety employees can retire at 50 with 3 percent of their highest salary for every year worked, plus lifetime medical benefits. Many of these employees get disability retirements due to the strenuous nature of their jobs and therefore only have to pay income tax on 50 percent of their pension income.
The state gets very little property tax, its revenues come from the “big 3”–the personal income tax, the sales tax, and corporation tax. That (among other reasons) is why the state continued to face structural deficits even when real estate was booming from 2001-2005. Income tax revenues are very volatile. The locals have been riding a gravy train since 2001 and are going to start howling soon because the revenue growth has come to a halt. The smart ones, that spent the funds on one-time purposes like infrastructure improvements or set aside rainy-day funds will be fine. But those that expanded safety employee benefits are in for some hard times, with few options for cutting costs. Trying to reduce or eliminate pension benefits from public safety “heroes” is political suicide.
October 9, 2007 at 4:34 PM #87642waterboyParticipantIts in a reserve fund right now because of all the owners who won’t be able to make their payment in the next few years
October 9, 2007 at 4:34 PM #87647waterboyParticipantIts in a reserve fund right now because of all the owners who won’t be able to make their payment in the next few years
October 9, 2007 at 5:26 PM #87661patientlywaitingParticipantI don’t feel like I’m getting quadruple the services from a few years ago.
Where are the true fiscal conservatives and small government advocates?
October 9, 2007 at 5:26 PM #87664patientlywaitingParticipantI don’t feel like I’m getting quadruple the services from a few years ago.
Where are the true fiscal conservatives and small government advocates?
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