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bottom line, if a company cannot build a sustainable business, it should fail. it doesn’t matter how they screwed it up. it doesn’t matter if it builds good product. if you cannot find a way to run in the black, it is not a sustainable business model.

we are on a very slippery slope, who gets to play god and pick winners and losers? what industry is next? everyone seems to be getting in line these days and can you blame them? lets bail out luxury retailers next.

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bottom line, if a company cannot build a sustainable business, it should fail. it doesn’t matter how they screwed it up. it doesn’t matter if it builds good product. if you cannot find a way to run in the black, it is not a sustainable business model.

we are on a very slippery slope, who gets to play god and pick winners and losers? what industry is next? everyone seems to be getting in line these days and can you blame them? lets bail out luxury retailers next.

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[quote] zzz: I can tell from your naive post that you have basically no clue what your talking about.

Or are/were you a FB for “some” reason? [/quote]

paramount, wow so since you have nothing to say in your own defense you resort to accusing me of being naive? that is hilarious. in response to your question, no i’m not a screwed irresponsible person with no morals. there is nothing naive about expecting people to live up to their contracts. what good are they if people just walk? do you justify this because everyone else is doing it? this is absolutely about your family, do you want to teach your children that screwing others is ok? regardless of whether you are wronged, two wrongs do not make a right. i waste my time typing these obvious simplistic tenants of what people with character believe in because clearly you didn’t learn right from wrong.

stop your crying and act like a responsible adult.

you brought this on yourself with your post. if you didn’t want to hear honest feedback perhaps you shouldn’t post on a forum. go crawl back under your rock

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[quote] zzz: I can tell from your naive post that you have basically no clue what your talking about.

Or are/were you a FB for “some” reason? [/quote]

paramount, wow so since you have nothing to say in your own defense you resort to accusing me of being naive? that is hilarious. in response to your question, no i’m not a screwed irresponsible person with no morals. there is nothing naive about expecting people to live up to their contracts. what good are they if people just walk? do you justify this because everyone else is doing it? this is absolutely about your family, do you want to teach your children that screwing others is ok? regardless of whether you are wronged, two wrongs do not make a right. i waste my time typing these obvious simplistic tenants of what people with character believe in because clearly you didn’t learn right from wrong.

stop your crying and act like a responsible adult.

you brought this on yourself with your post. if you didn’t want to hear honest feedback perhaps you shouldn’t post on a forum. go crawl back under your rock

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[quote] zzz: I can tell from your naive post that you have basically no clue what your talking about.

Or are/were you a FB for “some” reason? [/quote]

paramount, wow so since you have nothing to say in your own defense you resort to accusing me of being naive? that is hilarious. in response to your question, no i’m not a screwed irresponsible person with no morals. there is nothing naive about expecting people to live up to their contracts. what good are they if people just walk? do you justify this because everyone else is doing it? this is absolutely about your family, do you want to teach your children that screwing others is ok? regardless of whether you are wronged, two wrongs do not make a right. i waste my time typing these obvious simplistic tenants of what people with character believe in because clearly you didn’t learn right from wrong.

stop your crying and act like a responsible adult.

you brought this on yourself with your post. if you didn’t want to hear honest feedback perhaps you shouldn’t post on a forum. go crawl back under your rock

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[quote] zzz: I can tell from your naive post that you have basically no clue what your talking about.

Or are/were you a FB for “some” reason? [/quote]

paramount, wow so since you have nothing to say in your own defense you resort to accusing me of being naive? that is hilarious. in response to your question, no i’m not a screwed irresponsible person with no morals. there is nothing naive about expecting people to live up to their contracts. what good are they if people just walk? do you justify this because everyone else is doing it? this is absolutely about your family, do you want to teach your children that screwing others is ok? regardless of whether you are wronged, two wrongs do not make a right. i waste my time typing these obvious simplistic tenants of what people with character believe in because clearly you didn’t learn right from wrong.

stop your crying and act like a responsible adult.

you brought this on yourself with your post. if you didn’t want to hear honest feedback perhaps you shouldn’t post on a forum. go crawl back under your rock

[zzz]

[quote] zzz: I can tell from your naive post that you have basically no clue what your talking about.

Or are/were you a FB for “some” reason? [/quote]

paramount, wow so since you have nothing to say in your own defense you resort to accusing me of being naive? that is hilarious. in response to your question, no i’m not a screwed irresponsible person with no morals. there is nothing naive about expecting people to live up to their contracts. what good are they if people just walk? do you justify this because everyone else is doing it? this is absolutely about your family, do you want to teach your children that screwing others is ok? regardless of whether you are wronged, two wrongs do not make a right. i waste my time typing these obvious simplistic tenants of what people with character believe in because clearly you didn’t learn right from wrong.

stop your crying and act like a responsible adult.

you brought this on yourself with your post. if you didn’t want to hear honest feedback perhaps you shouldn’t post on a forum. go crawl back under your rock

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North County Jim, who is footing the bill? I would argue that responsible people always end up footing the bill. If the government is investing in the lender / bank, then we the taxpayer are footing some portion of that loan mod. Or we, the responsible borrower pays for it in higher fees and rates passed along by the bank to cover its lending losses.

No I wouldn’t take advantage. See that is the problem, everyone is trying to take advantage of someone else and do they really believe no one gets screwed?

Justifications that everyone else is doing it does not make it right. Should I tell the IRS that everyone else is doing it when I cheat on my taxes or forget to pay? Well IRS tax guy, we have senators and our Treasury Secretary doing it and just getting a slap on the hand so I didn’t see the big deal. Where does the buck stop?

I’m really tired of people trying to meter their wrong against others wrongness and somehow justify their wrong is ok.

I mean no ill will to people who are in difficult financial decisions. However I think letting people fail in this country is the right thing to do. Somehow we as a society have come to think that everyone should win, everyone should own a home, everyone should drive a new car every 2 years. There is a reason why only so many people get into Harvard, and why we don’t hand out 10th place medals. People win, people lose. If you violate this rule of nature, there are consequences.

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North County Jim, who is footing the bill? I would argue that responsible people always end up footing the bill. If the government is investing in the lender / bank, then we the taxpayer are footing some portion of that loan mod. Or we, the responsible borrower pays for it in higher fees and rates passed along by the bank to cover its lending losses.

No I wouldn’t take advantage. See that is the problem, everyone is trying to take advantage of someone else and do they really believe no one gets screwed?

Justifications that everyone else is doing it does not make it right. Should I tell the IRS that everyone else is doing it when I cheat on my taxes or forget to pay? Well IRS tax guy, we have senators and our Treasury Secretary doing it and just getting a slap on the hand so I didn’t see the big deal. Where does the buck stop?

I’m really tired of people trying to meter their wrong against others wrongness and somehow justify their wrong is ok.

I mean no ill will to people who are in difficult financial decisions. However I think letting people fail in this country is the right thing to do. Somehow we as a society have come to think that everyone should win, everyone should own a home, everyone should drive a new car every 2 years. There is a reason why only so many people get into Harvard, and why we don’t hand out 10th place medals. People win, people lose. If you violate this rule of nature, there are consequences.

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North County Jim, who is footing the bill? I would argue that responsible people always end up footing the bill. If the government is investing in the lender / bank, then we the taxpayer are footing some portion of that loan mod. Or we, the responsible borrower pays for it in higher fees and rates passed along by the bank to cover its lending losses.

No I wouldn’t take advantage. See that is the problem, everyone is trying to take advantage of someone else and do they really believe no one gets screwed?

Justifications that everyone else is doing it does not make it right. Should I tell the IRS that everyone else is doing it when I cheat on my taxes or forget to pay? Well IRS tax guy, we have senators and our Treasury Secretary doing it and just getting a slap on the hand so I didn’t see the big deal. Where does the buck stop?

I’m really tired of people trying to meter their wrong against others wrongness and somehow justify their wrong is ok.

I mean no ill will to people who are in difficult financial decisions. However I think letting people fail in this country is the right thing to do. Somehow we as a society have come to think that everyone should win, everyone should own a home, everyone should drive a new car every 2 years. There is a reason why only so many people get into Harvard, and why we don’t hand out 10th place medals. People win, people lose. If you violate this rule of nature, there are consequences.

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North County Jim, who is footing the bill? I would argue that responsible people always end up footing the bill. If the government is investing in the lender / bank, then we the taxpayer are footing some portion of that loan mod. Or we, the responsible borrower pays for it in higher fees and rates passed along by the bank to cover its lending losses.

No I wouldn’t take advantage. See that is the problem, everyone is trying to take advantage of someone else and do they really believe no one gets screwed?

Justifications that everyone else is doing it does not make it right. Should I tell the IRS that everyone else is doing it when I cheat on my taxes or forget to pay? Well IRS tax guy, we have senators and our Treasury Secretary doing it and just getting a slap on the hand so I didn’t see the big deal. Where does the buck stop?

I’m really tired of people trying to meter their wrong against others wrongness and somehow justify their wrong is ok.

I mean no ill will to people who are in difficult financial decisions. However I think letting people fail in this country is the right thing to do. Somehow we as a society have come to think that everyone should win, everyone should own a home, everyone should drive a new car every 2 years. There is a reason why only so many people get into Harvard, and why we don’t hand out 10th place medals. People win, people lose. If you violate this rule of nature, there are consequences.

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North County Jim, who is footing the bill? I would argue that responsible people always end up footing the bill. If the government is investing in the lender / bank, then we the taxpayer are footing some portion of that loan mod. Or we, the responsible borrower pays for it in higher fees and rates passed along by the bank to cover its lending losses.

No I wouldn’t take advantage. See that is the problem, everyone is trying to take advantage of someone else and do they really believe no one gets screwed?

Justifications that everyone else is doing it does not make it right. Should I tell the IRS that everyone else is doing it when I cheat on my taxes or forget to pay? Well IRS tax guy, we have senators and our Treasury Secretary doing it and just getting a slap on the hand so I didn’t see the big deal. Where does the buck stop?

I’m really tired of people trying to meter their wrong against others wrongness and somehow justify their wrong is ok.

I mean no ill will to people who are in difficult financial decisions. However I think letting people fail in this country is the right thing to do. Somehow we as a society have come to think that everyone should win, everyone should own a home, everyone should drive a new car every 2 years. There is a reason why only so many people get into Harvard, and why we don’t hand out 10th place medals. People win, people lose. If you violate this rule of nature, there are consequences.

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North County Jim, you have some really fuzzy logic there. just because people don’t support saving everyone doesn’t mean they root for the failure of others. i can’t speak for Breeze, but i take NO joy in watching anyone suffer, whether it is their fault or brought on by others. i also take NO joy in my tax dollars being spent to “bail” others out for their “choices”. they chose, they may have chosen very unwisely, they may have been uninformed and ignorant, too busy to read the loan docs, insert excuse, but that does not mean i have to like or support paying for their mistakes.

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North County Jim, you have some really fuzzy logic there. just because people don’t support saving everyone doesn’t mean they root for the failure of others. i can’t speak for Breeze, but i take NO joy in watching anyone suffer, whether it is their fault or brought on by others. i also take NO joy in my tax dollars being spent to “bail” others out for their “choices”. they chose, they may have chosen very unwisely, they may have been uninformed and ignorant, too busy to read the loan docs, insert excuse, but that does not mean i have to like or support paying for their mistakes.

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North County Jim, you have some really fuzzy logic there. just because people don’t support saving everyone doesn’t mean they root for the failure of others. i can’t speak for Breeze, but i take NO joy in watching anyone suffer, whether it is their fault or brought on by others. i also take NO joy in my tax dollars being spent to “bail” others out for their “choices”. they chose, they may have chosen very unwisely, they may have been uninformed and ignorant, too busy to read the loan docs, insert excuse, but that does not mean i have to like or support paying for their mistakes.

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