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November 10, 2016 at 3:31 PM in reply to: Electoral College: the disenfranchisement of Californians #803449
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Participant[quote=flu][quote=harvey][quote=flu]Here’s food for thought. What if, instead of the supreme Court deciding women rights, gay rights, seperation of church and state for the entire country, the supreme Court just ruled permanently that those rights would be decided strictly by the states individually…
That way if the majority of a state wanted to ban abortion, they can ban abortion. And those states that are pro choice, can have pro choice… And then if the states laws don’t fit your belief system…well, move to a state that does.?
The federal government would then only be responsible for defense of the country, some infrastructure, and some research and development.[/quote]
Wow.
You just missed the entire meaning of the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.[/quote]
Maybe, but wouldn’t it solve the problem? i mean that way red states that want their ultra conservative “values” can have it in their respective states. And folks here in CA can have want we want. And then people will tend to gravity to where they feel comfortable living?
The problem with U.S. is since it’s a medley of different people with different views, cultures, norms,etc. Perhaps, a “one size fit all” doesn’t exactly work.[/quote]
The divide is not between the red states and the blue states; it is between the metropolitan areas and the countryside.
Participant[quote=AN][quote=harvey][quote=AN]what are you talking about. Why you even bring up deficit when you said nothing of the sort for the last 7 years.[/quote]
I said nothing about the deficit for seven years because I wasn’t concerned about the deficit then and I’m not concerned about it now. Zero contradiction there.
I’m pointing out that the Republican party can completely abandon its “principles” in a heartbeat. Because they stand for nothing except winning.
[quote]Now, it’s not your party doing, and now it’s a problem. Since I’m part of neither party, I will cheer for the spending that benefit me. Since either of the controlling party care about deficit.[/quote]
I have no more party than you do. The “I’m above it all as an independent” card doesn’t play with me.
Enjoy your handout. If he manages to pull it off, I’ll probably claim it also.[/quote]LoL
“Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – President Obama to House Republican Whip Eric Cantor, January 23, 2009[/quote]So, I guess your team won! Congrat, Mr. Independent.
ParticipantNobody talk about cutting taxes? Republicans party just got a once in a generation opportunity to redo the tax code. I think this will be done real fast.
Participanthttps://www.greatagain.gov/policy/immigration.html
Build a wall is part of ten-point plan of President elect Trump policy in immigration.
Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=spdrun]How do you know? Might be enough irate voters to turn the Senate and House blue.[/quote]
Look at the polls.
No poll ever said that house was ever in play this election. GOP has structural advantage due to last redistricting.
Senate was in play only when Hillary had 6+ point lead in the poles. If Hillary wins by small margin or loses, the senate will remain to be red.
The only two scenarios now seem to be (i) narrow Hillary win + red house + closely divided red/blue senate + unknown supreme court or (ii) narrow Trump win + red house + red senate + red supreme court.
Choose carefully![/quote]
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/
Remember the worse case scenario is the Democrats have control of all 3 branches of government. The fact that President Trump can has sole authority to use nuclear weapons.. well, I suppose is not as big of a concern.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Wow, the power of women. Looks like Billy Bush is out of NBC.[/quote]
Nope. It just means that there is a higher moral standards required by the media than what it required to be the President.
Participant[quote=AN][quote=SK in CV]Really? A single paragraph of a speech that you just read for the first time no more than a few days ago, for which you had zero context, is why you don’t trust her? Before that you did? Yeah, go with that. That’s believable. Can’t be that you really don’t have a good reason.[/quote]Believe what you will. I’m not trying to convince you. All you need to know is I think she’s a big fat LIAR. I’m also not alone. Majority of American think so too. Keep drinking your Kool-Aid. It’s good for you.[/quote]
Wow, I think Donald Trump has take over AN’s account and start posting in Piggington. lol.
Participant[quote=flu][quote=utcsox][quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]
You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]
Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.
In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]
If you are a middle class who make $732K a year(top 1%), or an upper middle class who is making $3.8 million a year(top 0.1%), or really top of the line upper middle class who have income over $5 million a dollar, you are really screw under Mrs. Clinton’s tax plan.
If you are a super duper upper middle class who has $500 million when you died, there is a 65% tax on estate. All joking aside, you shall read this excellent article of Hilary tax proposal from WSJ below:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-targets-tax-hikes-at-the-very-top-1475863171%5B/quote%5D
I couldn’t access your WSJ link, but I’ve been trying to figure out what exactly her position is on certain tax issues.
Like I said, there’s the issue of estate taxes (which really isn’t an issue) unless your net worth is more than 10milion. But aside from that, there’s the issue related to step-up cost basis, which is separate from estate taxes. That’s about capital gains.[/quote]
If you do not have subscription to WSJ but still want to read its content. You can do a google search of the article title(Hilary Clinton targets tax hikes at the very top) and click on it. Then you shall be able to read it for free.
Participant[quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]
You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]
Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.
In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]
If you are a middle class who make $732K a year(top 1%), or an upper middle class who is making $3.8 million a year(top 0.1%), or really top of the line upper middle class who have income over $5 million a dollar, you are really screw under Mrs. Clinton’s tax plan.
If you are a super duper upper middle class who has $500 million when you died, there is a 65% tax on estate. All joking aside, you shall read this excellent article of Hilary tax proposal from WSJ below:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-targets-tax-hikes-at-the-very-top-1475863171
Participant[quote=flu]Not exactly the issue I thought would take down trump, but at this point anything that takes him down is fine with me.
I just hope there’s not a huge impact down ticket. But if there is, all the right wing nut jobs can definitely blame Trump on that one.
It is pretty funny to watch all the republicans that recently endorsed or supported Trump all the sudden squirm.[/quote]
I disagree. For the last year, we have seen what prominent Republicans leaders can live with. They can live with his racist views of Mexican immigrants, Muslims, and African Americans. And somehow suddenly they are all outrage by the grab me by the P**** statement? Why do these elected Republicans who kowtow to Trump deserve to hold on to their offices? If they cannot even stand against Trump, somehow we shall trust them to do the right things when they are re-elected again?
ParticipantI guess Republicans can defend this like Washington State Republican Party Chair Susan Hutchison did, “Trumps comments were made when he was a Democrat”.
Participanthttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-poverty-idUSKCN11J1PP
Another element that will impact future rent growth in San Diego is the pace of income growth. With record increase in U.S. household income in 2015, rent shall continue to climb in the near future.
Participant[quote=treehugger]Appears sebonic is holding the lead with 3.25 and almost $2000 credit, if it holds til I get back to the States on Thursday I think I will pull the trigger.[/quote]
Really? Can you share with me on how you find this amazing deal? Thanks.
Participant[quote=treehugger]Appears sebonic is holding the lead with 3.25 and almost $2000 credit, if it holds til I get back to the States on Thursday I think I will pull the trigger.[/quote]
Really? Can you share with me on how you find this amazing deal? Thanks.
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