[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=urbanrealtor]Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.[/quote]

@urban: But this is her actual policy. Abstinence only eduction in schools. Anti-contraception. This is a perfect example of why her policies don’t work.[/quote]

No its not her actual policy.
It is her personal life.

Having there be a disparity between public and personal lives is nothing new. Pointing out the failure in her public policy is the domain of studies and evidence. Her personal case does nothing but add irony to her statements.

I think its fair to point out a disagreement between public and personal but saying you are pro-life and supporting a daughters decision to carry a baby to term are only peripherally in disagreement. Basically, as I understand it, much of her camp is of the opinion that premarital sex is a bad idea (and therefore sex-ed and contraception are not acceptable) but that abortion (which is not technically contraception) is far worse.

So she humped while in highschool. I don’t think this is really a huge scandal. While being undesirable in that it deviates from “traditional” families (I guess because she is 17), and her mother’s public line, they are addressing it in a way that is very much in keeping with the policies she espouses. The kid is being carried and dad and mom are getting married.

On a side note:
I can’t believe you have me coming to the defense of the right. And on my own satire thread. Ugh.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=urbanrealtor]Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.[/quote]

@urban: But this is her actual policy. Abstinence only eduction in schools. Anti-contraception. This is a perfect example of why her policies don’t work.[/quote]

No its not her actual policy.
It is her personal life.

Having there be a disparity between public and personal lives is nothing new. Pointing out the failure in her public policy is the domain of studies and evidence. Her personal case does nothing but add irony to her statements.

I think its fair to point out a disagreement between public and personal but saying you are pro-life and supporting a daughters decision to carry a baby to term are only peripherally in disagreement. Basically, as I understand it, much of her camp is of the opinion that premarital sex is a bad idea (and therefore sex-ed and contraception are not acceptable) but that abortion (which is not technically contraception) is far worse.

So she humped while in highschool. I don’t think this is really a huge scandal. While being undesirable in that it deviates from “traditional” families (I guess because she is 17), and her mother’s public line, they are addressing it in a way that is very much in keeping with the policies she espouses. The kid is being carried and dad and mom are getting married.

On a side note:
I can’t believe you have me coming to the defense of the right. And on my own satire thread. Ugh.

[urbanrealtor]

AFX: you have some level of point there.

Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.

[urbanrealtor]

AFX: you have some level of point there.

Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.

[urbanrealtor]

AFX: you have some level of point there.

Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.

[urbanrealtor]

AFX: you have some level of point there.

Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.

[urbanrealtor]

AFX: you have some level of point there.

Still, I don’t have a great amount of respect for discounting her based on anything other than actual policy.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]No, that’s what happens when you have four kids, you’re pregnant with the fifth, and you’re trying to do a decent job as a governor of a big state.[/quote]

Makes you wonder how she’ll perform when she has 5 kids, 1 grandkid, is President of the United States, and Putin is breathing down her neck.
[/quote]

I think that is unfair.

The Kennedys (whom I liked) bred like rabbits.

I don’t think that personal necessarily impacts professional in that way.

If it did, I think that Clinton’s (or W’s) personal lives would not have seemed as irrelevant.

Bush being lousy had little to do with him being a lech and a blowhead. Similarly, Clinton’s failures had little to do his inability to keep it in his pants.

Palin may suck but not for irrelevant reasons.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]No, that’s what happens when you have four kids, you’re pregnant with the fifth, and you’re trying to do a decent job as a governor of a big state.[/quote]

Makes you wonder how she’ll perform when she has 5 kids, 1 grandkid, is President of the United States, and Putin is breathing down her neck.
[/quote]

I think that is unfair.

The Kennedys (whom I liked) bred like rabbits.

I don’t think that personal necessarily impacts professional in that way.

If it did, I think that Clinton’s (or W’s) personal lives would not have seemed as irrelevant.

Bush being lousy had little to do with him being a lech and a blowhead. Similarly, Clinton’s failures had little to do his inability to keep it in his pants.

Palin may suck but not for irrelevant reasons.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]No, that’s what happens when you have four kids, you’re pregnant with the fifth, and you’re trying to do a decent job as a governor of a big state.[/quote]

Makes you wonder how she’ll perform when she has 5 kids, 1 grandkid, is President of the United States, and Putin is breathing down her neck.
[/quote]

I think that is unfair.

The Kennedys (whom I liked) bred like rabbits.

I don’t think that personal necessarily impacts professional in that way.

If it did, I think that Clinton’s (or W’s) personal lives would not have seemed as irrelevant.

Bush being lousy had little to do with him being a lech and a blowhead. Similarly, Clinton’s failures had little to do his inability to keep it in his pants.

Palin may suck but not for irrelevant reasons.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]No, that’s what happens when you have four kids, you’re pregnant with the fifth, and you’re trying to do a decent job as a governor of a big state.[/quote]

Makes you wonder how she’ll perform when she has 5 kids, 1 grandkid, is President of the United States, and Putin is breathing down her neck.
[/quote]

I think that is unfair.

The Kennedys (whom I liked) bred like rabbits.

I don’t think that personal necessarily impacts professional in that way.

If it did, I think that Clinton’s (or W’s) personal lives would not have seemed as irrelevant.

Bush being lousy had little to do with him being a lech and a blowhead. Similarly, Clinton’s failures had little to do his inability to keep it in his pants.

Palin may suck but not for irrelevant reasons.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]No, that’s what happens when you have four kids, you’re pregnant with the fifth, and you’re trying to do a decent job as a governor of a big state.[/quote]

Makes you wonder how she’ll perform when she has 5 kids, 1 grandkid, is President of the United States, and Putin is breathing down her neck.
[/quote]

I think that is unfair.

The Kennedys (whom I liked) bred like rabbits.

I don’t think that personal necessarily impacts professional in that way.

If it did, I think that Clinton’s (or W’s) personal lives would not have seemed as irrelevant.

Bush being lousy had little to do with him being a lech and a blowhead. Similarly, Clinton’s failures had little to do his inability to keep it in his pants.

Palin may suck but not for irrelevant reasons.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Dan: I like it. Not sure the Mother Church would appreciate your jesting, but I do.

I’d go for more of the Country Dick and the Beat Farmers kinda thing.

Has anyone noticed that it seems like Johnny Cash’s “When the Man Comes Around” is getting a lot of airplay on various TV shows? It’s like the song du jour or something.

Nazis aren’t right wing. They’re socialists. Deal with it.[/quote]

Re Johnny:
You’re talking about the season finale of the Sarah Connor Chronicles as well as Generation Kill.
Dude.
How much of the same shit do we watch?

Re Nazis:
I stand by what I said. While I believe (as I suspect you do) that the political spectrum is best mapped in a circle, most basic poli sci courses teach it as linear with Facism and National Socialism to the right. I am saying I agree with you but that the model used in this thread is not as nuanced. I think that is a reasonable assertion.

Re some shit you never brought up:
If you like that song and are raised in the order of Jesus, get your hands on “The Origin of Satan” by Pagels. Seriously. Its a trace of Satan as a character going back to the Judaic and even pre Judaic Babylonian roots. Very good read.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Dan: I like it. Not sure the Mother Church would appreciate your jesting, but I do.

I’d go for more of the Country Dick and the Beat Farmers kinda thing.

Has anyone noticed that it seems like Johnny Cash’s “When the Man Comes Around” is getting a lot of airplay on various TV shows? It’s like the song du jour or something.

Nazis aren’t right wing. They’re socialists. Deal with it.[/quote]

Re Johnny:
You’re talking about the season finale of the Sarah Connor Chronicles as well as Generation Kill.
Dude.
How much of the same shit do we watch?

Re Nazis:
I stand by what I said. While I believe (as I suspect you do) that the political spectrum is best mapped in a circle, most basic poli sci courses teach it as linear with Facism and National Socialism to the right. I am saying I agree with you but that the model used in this thread is not as nuanced. I think that is a reasonable assertion.

Re some shit you never brought up:
If you like that song and are raised in the order of Jesus, get your hands on “The Origin of Satan” by Pagels. Seriously. Its a trace of Satan as a character going back to the Judaic and even pre Judaic Babylonian roots. Very good read.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Dan: I like it. Not sure the Mother Church would appreciate your jesting, but I do.

I’d go for more of the Country Dick and the Beat Farmers kinda thing.

Has anyone noticed that it seems like Johnny Cash’s “When the Man Comes Around” is getting a lot of airplay on various TV shows? It’s like the song du jour or something.

Nazis aren’t right wing. They’re socialists. Deal with it.[/quote]

Re Johnny:
You’re talking about the season finale of the Sarah Connor Chronicles as well as Generation Kill.
Dude.
How much of the same shit do we watch?

Re Nazis:
I stand by what I said. While I believe (as I suspect you do) that the political spectrum is best mapped in a circle, most basic poli sci courses teach it as linear with Facism and National Socialism to the right. I am saying I agree with you but that the model used in this thread is not as nuanced. I think that is a reasonable assertion.

Re some shit you never brought up:
If you like that song and are raised in the order of Jesus, get your hands on “The Origin of Satan” by Pagels. Seriously. Its a trace of Satan as a character going back to the Judaic and even pre Judaic Babylonian roots. Very good read.

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