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tempo!

In Jim Klinge’s blog, there is a person who listed his house but because of the new MLS upgrade Tempo 5, the system has not been letting any new listings show. Maybe that is it.

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tempo!

In Jim Klinge’s blog, there is a person who listed his house but because of the new MLS upgrade Tempo 5, the system has not been letting any new listings show. Maybe that is it.

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tempo!

In Jim Klinge’s blog, there is a person who listed his house but because of the new MLS upgrade Tempo 5, the system has not been letting any new listings show. Maybe that is it.

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tempo!

In Jim Klinge’s blog, there is a person who listed his house but because of the new MLS upgrade Tempo 5, the system has not been letting any new listings show. Maybe that is it.

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yikes…

Mail order brides are cheaper…

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yikes…

Mail order brides are cheaper…

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yikes…

Mail order brides are cheaper…

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yikes…

Mail order brides are cheaper…

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yikes…

Mail order brides are cheaper…

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[quote=gandalf]surveyor, one thing to consider is: are we better off dealing with the Muslim issue on our terms or theirs? We have a choice as to how to ‘counter-punch’ the enemy. Some tactics work better than others.
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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
– Sun Tzu”

When we were dealing with the Russians, we had a really good understanding of their ideology. There were certain things they wanted, and their goals were relatively straight forward. We were able to anticipate their moves (sometimes) because we understood them.

We do not have that same understanding with the Islamic enemy we have now. We say things like “it’s only the extremists elements of islam”, “if only israel would give them the land they would leave israel alone”, “well it’s because of our policies”, “well we are occupiers that’s why they’re suicide-bombing us.” The things we say show that we have absolutely no understanding of the dynamics, beliefs, and aspects of Islam.

Let’s actually try to attack the Islamists according to our terms, not theirs. Right now it is mostly on their terms. We’re getting some things right, but without real understanding of our enemy, we have little hope of winning.

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[quote=gandalf]surveyor, one thing to consider is: are we better off dealing with the Muslim issue on our terms or theirs? We have a choice as to how to ‘counter-punch’ the enemy. Some tactics work better than others.
[/quote]

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
– Sun Tzu”

When we were dealing with the Russians, we had a really good understanding of their ideology. There were certain things they wanted, and their goals were relatively straight forward. We were able to anticipate their moves (sometimes) because we understood them.

We do not have that same understanding with the Islamic enemy we have now. We say things like “it’s only the extremists elements of islam”, “if only israel would give them the land they would leave israel alone”, “well it’s because of our policies”, “well we are occupiers that’s why they’re suicide-bombing us.” The things we say show that we have absolutely no understanding of the dynamics, beliefs, and aspects of Islam.

Let’s actually try to attack the Islamists according to our terms, not theirs. Right now it is mostly on their terms. We’re getting some things right, but without real understanding of our enemy, we have little hope of winning.

[surveyor]

[quote=gandalf]surveyor, one thing to consider is: are we better off dealing with the Muslim issue on our terms or theirs? We have a choice as to how to ‘counter-punch’ the enemy. Some tactics work better than others.
[/quote]

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
– Sun Tzu”

When we were dealing with the Russians, we had a really good understanding of their ideology. There were certain things they wanted, and their goals were relatively straight forward. We were able to anticipate their moves (sometimes) because we understood them.

We do not have that same understanding with the Islamic enemy we have now. We say things like “it’s only the extremists elements of islam”, “if only israel would give them the land they would leave israel alone”, “well it’s because of our policies”, “well we are occupiers that’s why they’re suicide-bombing us.” The things we say show that we have absolutely no understanding of the dynamics, beliefs, and aspects of Islam.

Let’s actually try to attack the Islamists according to our terms, not theirs. Right now it is mostly on their terms. We’re getting some things right, but without real understanding of our enemy, we have little hope of winning.

[surveyor]

[quote=gandalf]surveyor, one thing to consider is: are we better off dealing with the Muslim issue on our terms or theirs? We have a choice as to how to ‘counter-punch’ the enemy. Some tactics work better than others.
[/quote]

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
– Sun Tzu”

When we were dealing with the Russians, we had a really good understanding of their ideology. There were certain things they wanted, and their goals were relatively straight forward. We were able to anticipate their moves (sometimes) because we understood them.

We do not have that same understanding with the Islamic enemy we have now. We say things like “it’s only the extremists elements of islam”, “if only israel would give them the land they would leave israel alone”, “well it’s because of our policies”, “well we are occupiers that’s why they’re suicide-bombing us.” The things we say show that we have absolutely no understanding of the dynamics, beliefs, and aspects of Islam.

Let’s actually try to attack the Islamists according to our terms, not theirs. Right now it is mostly on their terms. We’re getting some things right, but without real understanding of our enemy, we have little hope of winning.

[surveyor]

[quote=gandalf]surveyor, one thing to consider is: are we better off dealing with the Muslim issue on our terms or theirs? We have a choice as to how to ‘counter-punch’ the enemy. Some tactics work better than others.
[/quote]

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
– Sun Tzu”

When we were dealing with the Russians, we had a really good understanding of their ideology. There were certain things they wanted, and their goals were relatively straight forward. We were able to anticipate their moves (sometimes) because we understood them.

We do not have that same understanding with the Islamic enemy we have now. We say things like “it’s only the extremists elements of islam”, “if only israel would give them the land they would leave israel alone”, “well it’s because of our policies”, “well we are occupiers that’s why they’re suicide-bombing us.” The things we say show that we have absolutely no understanding of the dynamics, beliefs, and aspects of Islam.

Let’s actually try to attack the Islamists according to our terms, not theirs. Right now it is mostly on their terms. We’re getting some things right, but without real understanding of our enemy, we have little hope of winning.

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ah

ah, Allan, how can you (or the rest of the United States, for that matter) possibly understand the nature of our enemy, Islam and its history and relationship towards Israel and the Western World when you:

Generally speaking I think the religious element becomes a bit of a smokescreen as it gets cherry picked for emotional effect/propaganda and derails a more responsible dialougue about ethics, power and economics.

That statement there is exactly why many Americans do not understand the complexity of the threat that Islam presents and why the United States has been unable to deal with it with any wisdom.

(I’m not a rabid Christian btw. I’m actually more agnostic/atheist. I do admit to having an extreme dislike of Islam, but that’s because I know what it’s about. I like silly, little things like the equality of men/women, the ability to live with other societies, the idea of not marrying 9 year olds girls, and the ability to eat Spam.).

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