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Participant[quote=afx114][quote=sd_matt]I wonder how much of Obama believes in appeasement and how much of him believes that he really is slick enough to disarm NK with words.[/quote]
What would you have him do? Invade North Korea?
[/quote]For a person who seems to value pragmatism, that’s a rather unsophisticated view, isn’t it? There are other options rather than invading and going to war with North Korea.
All we’re saying is that appeasement is not the answer and will more likely make the problem worse. It’s better for the U.S. to use those other options before being painted into a corner where the only option is military (where the situation in Iran is leading to).
Feeding the alligator hoping he’ll eat you last is never going to work.
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=sd_matt]I wonder how much of Obama believes in appeasement and how much of him believes that he really is slick enough to disarm NK with words.[/quote]
What would you have him do? Invade North Korea?
[/quote]For a person who seems to value pragmatism, that’s a rather unsophisticated view, isn’t it? There are other options rather than invading and going to war with North Korea.
All we’re saying is that appeasement is not the answer and will more likely make the problem worse. It’s better for the U.S. to use those other options before being painted into a corner where the only option is military (where the situation in Iran is leading to).
Feeding the alligator hoping he’ll eat you last is never going to work.
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=sd_matt]I wonder how much of Obama believes in appeasement and how much of him believes that he really is slick enough to disarm NK with words.[/quote]
What would you have him do? Invade North Korea?
[/quote]For a person who seems to value pragmatism, that’s a rather unsophisticated view, isn’t it? There are other options rather than invading and going to war with North Korea.
All we’re saying is that appeasement is not the answer and will more likely make the problem worse. It’s better for the U.S. to use those other options before being painted into a corner where the only option is military (where the situation in Iran is leading to).
Feeding the alligator hoping he’ll eat you last is never going to work.
Participantallan:
Sorry, don’t have HBO. Maybe if it comes out in DVD I’ll see if I can watch it. If it weren’t for the Lakers being deep in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be able to justify cable television to my wife…
As for Obama’s speech, it was difficult listening to it, being so riddled with historical inaccuracies, questionable moral relativism, and lack of understanding of what he was even quoting when he quoted the Koran. I just had to shake my head. Par for the course when it comes to Obama.
Still, for me, it’s a speech and I don’t get worked up over a speech, I worry more about his actions. My whole attitude towards Obama has been basically the same as Bush, history will judge whether he succeeded or failed or was able to succesfully blame someone else for his failures.
Participantallan:
Sorry, don’t have HBO. Maybe if it comes out in DVD I’ll see if I can watch it. If it weren’t for the Lakers being deep in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be able to justify cable television to my wife…
As for Obama’s speech, it was difficult listening to it, being so riddled with historical inaccuracies, questionable moral relativism, and lack of understanding of what he was even quoting when he quoted the Koran. I just had to shake my head. Par for the course when it comes to Obama.
Still, for me, it’s a speech and I don’t get worked up over a speech, I worry more about his actions. My whole attitude towards Obama has been basically the same as Bush, history will judge whether he succeeded or failed or was able to succesfully blame someone else for his failures.
Participantallan:
Sorry, don’t have HBO. Maybe if it comes out in DVD I’ll see if I can watch it. If it weren’t for the Lakers being deep in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be able to justify cable television to my wife…
As for Obama’s speech, it was difficult listening to it, being so riddled with historical inaccuracies, questionable moral relativism, and lack of understanding of what he was even quoting when he quoted the Koran. I just had to shake my head. Par for the course when it comes to Obama.
Still, for me, it’s a speech and I don’t get worked up over a speech, I worry more about his actions. My whole attitude towards Obama has been basically the same as Bush, history will judge whether he succeeded or failed or was able to succesfully blame someone else for his failures.
Participantallan:
Sorry, don’t have HBO. Maybe if it comes out in DVD I’ll see if I can watch it. If it weren’t for the Lakers being deep in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be able to justify cable television to my wife…
As for Obama’s speech, it was difficult listening to it, being so riddled with historical inaccuracies, questionable moral relativism, and lack of understanding of what he was even quoting when he quoted the Koran. I just had to shake my head. Par for the course when it comes to Obama.
Still, for me, it’s a speech and I don’t get worked up over a speech, I worry more about his actions. My whole attitude towards Obama has been basically the same as Bush, history will judge whether he succeeded or failed or was able to succesfully blame someone else for his failures.
Participantallan:
Sorry, don’t have HBO. Maybe if it comes out in DVD I’ll see if I can watch it. If it weren’t for the Lakers being deep in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be able to justify cable television to my wife…
As for Obama’s speech, it was difficult listening to it, being so riddled with historical inaccuracies, questionable moral relativism, and lack of understanding of what he was even quoting when he quoted the Koran. I just had to shake my head. Par for the course when it comes to Obama.
Still, for me, it’s a speech and I don’t get worked up over a speech, I worry more about his actions. My whole attitude towards Obama has been basically the same as Bush, history will judge whether he succeeded or failed or was able to succesfully blame someone else for his failures.
Participanthi, allan!
For me, I am seeing a lot of parallels with the appeasement policies with Chamberlain and the current U.S. policies. Chamberlain believed that you could meet belligerence with kindness and meet its demands. This seems to be also the policies of our president, where he is willing to accept a nuclear Iran, try to satiate and bargain with North Korea, and sell out Israel to Hamas. History has already shown this particular tactic will not work.
One wonders when the president will figure this out.
As the Lakers showed last night, experience and history really matters…
Participanthi, allan!
For me, I am seeing a lot of parallels with the appeasement policies with Chamberlain and the current U.S. policies. Chamberlain believed that you could meet belligerence with kindness and meet its demands. This seems to be also the policies of our president, where he is willing to accept a nuclear Iran, try to satiate and bargain with North Korea, and sell out Israel to Hamas. History has already shown this particular tactic will not work.
One wonders when the president will figure this out.
As the Lakers showed last night, experience and history really matters…
Participanthi, allan!
For me, I am seeing a lot of parallels with the appeasement policies with Chamberlain and the current U.S. policies. Chamberlain believed that you could meet belligerence with kindness and meet its demands. This seems to be also the policies of our president, where he is willing to accept a nuclear Iran, try to satiate and bargain with North Korea, and sell out Israel to Hamas. History has already shown this particular tactic will not work.
One wonders when the president will figure this out.
As the Lakers showed last night, experience and history really matters…
Participanthi, allan!
For me, I am seeing a lot of parallels with the appeasement policies with Chamberlain and the current U.S. policies. Chamberlain believed that you could meet belligerence with kindness and meet its demands. This seems to be also the policies of our president, where he is willing to accept a nuclear Iran, try to satiate and bargain with North Korea, and sell out Israel to Hamas. History has already shown this particular tactic will not work.
One wonders when the president will figure this out.
As the Lakers showed last night, experience and history really matters…
Participanthi, allan!
For me, I am seeing a lot of parallels with the appeasement policies with Chamberlain and the current U.S. policies. Chamberlain believed that you could meet belligerence with kindness and meet its demands. This seems to be also the policies of our president, where he is willing to accept a nuclear Iran, try to satiate and bargain with North Korea, and sell out Israel to Hamas. History has already shown this particular tactic will not work.
One wonders when the president will figure this out.
As the Lakers showed last night, experience and history really matters…
Participant[quote=dbapig]
The threat by NK that they will turn Seoul into a sea of fire is what it is, a threat.Trust me, no one wants ‘peace’ on the Korean peninsula more than Kim in NK. He’s got it good. Why lose it by starting a war that’s he’s sure to lose?[/quote]
I bet that’s what Neville Chamberlain was thinking about Hitler…
Interesting note from Wikipedia:
“Chamberlain believed passionately in peace for many reasons (most of which are discussed in the article Appeasement), thinking it his job as Britain’s leader to maintain stability in Europe; like many people in Britain and elsewhere, he thought that the best way to deal with Germany’s belligerence was to treat it with kindness and meet its demands. He also believed that the leaders of people are essentially rational beings, and that Hitler must necessarily be rational as well.”
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