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Participant=shrug=
I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. If you’re unable to understand that, dan, you’ve got a long way to go towards analytical thinking.
Unfortunately dan name-calling doesn’t hurt me or my arguments. It does however make you look bad.
Participant=shrug=
I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. If you’re unable to understand that, dan, you’ve got a long way to go towards analytical thinking.
Unfortunately dan name-calling doesn’t hurt me or my arguments. It does however make you look bad.
Participant=shrug=
I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. If you’re unable to understand that, dan, you’ve got a long way to go towards analytical thinking.
Unfortunately dan name-calling doesn’t hurt me or my arguments. It does however make you look bad.
Participantblinders
I don’t believe the CIA let it happen. I surmise that they, like you Arraya, didn’t want to give credence to the idea that he, as a muslim, could be more susceptible to jihadist philosophy than a christian and they did not analyze or care to understand how the core teachings of Islam can lead one to jihadism.
That’s how I feel.
There is evidence for my hypothesis. There is zero evidence for yours. When this situation happens, the one with zero is the whack job.
Participantblinders
I don’t believe the CIA let it happen. I surmise that they, like you Arraya, didn’t want to give credence to the idea that he, as a muslim, could be more susceptible to jihadist philosophy than a christian and they did not analyze or care to understand how the core teachings of Islam can lead one to jihadism.
That’s how I feel.
There is evidence for my hypothesis. There is zero evidence for yours. When this situation happens, the one with zero is the whack job.
Participantblinders
I don’t believe the CIA let it happen. I surmise that they, like you Arraya, didn’t want to give credence to the idea that he, as a muslim, could be more susceptible to jihadist philosophy than a christian and they did not analyze or care to understand how the core teachings of Islam can lead one to jihadism.
That’s how I feel.
There is evidence for my hypothesis. There is zero evidence for yours. When this situation happens, the one with zero is the whack job.
Participantblinders
I don’t believe the CIA let it happen. I surmise that they, like you Arraya, didn’t want to give credence to the idea that he, as a muslim, could be more susceptible to jihadist philosophy than a christian and they did not analyze or care to understand how the core teachings of Islam can lead one to jihadism.
That’s how I feel.
There is evidence for my hypothesis. There is zero evidence for yours. When this situation happens, the one with zero is the whack job.
Participantblinders
I don’t believe the CIA let it happen. I surmise that they, like you Arraya, didn’t want to give credence to the idea that he, as a muslim, could be more susceptible to jihadist philosophy than a christian and they did not analyze or care to understand how the core teachings of Islam can lead one to jihadism.
That’s how I feel.
There is evidence for my hypothesis. There is zero evidence for yours. When this situation happens, the one with zero is the whack job.
Participantevidence mounts
“United States Army Major Nidal Hasan proclaimed himself a “soldier of Allah” on private business cards he obtained over the Internet and kept in a box at his apartment near Fort Hood, Texas.”
“The cards make no mention of his military affiliation, but underneath his name he listed himself as SoA (SWT). SoA is commonly used on jihadist Web sites as the acronym for Soldier of Allah, according to investigators and experts who have studied such sites. SWT is commonly used by Muslims as an acronym for Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala, Glory to God. ”
No, he can’t be a jihadist, right guys? I mean, the “Soldier of Allah” thing technically means he’s a jihadist, but he can’t be one right? He must have just snapped, right? I mean, religion can’t be the reason why he killed, right?
Guys? Maybe I’m the whack job because I point this out right?
Participantevidence mounts
“United States Army Major Nidal Hasan proclaimed himself a “soldier of Allah” on private business cards he obtained over the Internet and kept in a box at his apartment near Fort Hood, Texas.”
“The cards make no mention of his military affiliation, but underneath his name he listed himself as SoA (SWT). SoA is commonly used on jihadist Web sites as the acronym for Soldier of Allah, according to investigators and experts who have studied such sites. SWT is commonly used by Muslims as an acronym for Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala, Glory to God. ”
No, he can’t be a jihadist, right guys? I mean, the “Soldier of Allah” thing technically means he’s a jihadist, but he can’t be one right? He must have just snapped, right? I mean, religion can’t be the reason why he killed, right?
Guys? Maybe I’m the whack job because I point this out right?
Participantevidence mounts
“United States Army Major Nidal Hasan proclaimed himself a “soldier of Allah” on private business cards he obtained over the Internet and kept in a box at his apartment near Fort Hood, Texas.”
“The cards make no mention of his military affiliation, but underneath his name he listed himself as SoA (SWT). SoA is commonly used on jihadist Web sites as the acronym for Soldier of Allah, according to investigators and experts who have studied such sites. SWT is commonly used by Muslims as an acronym for Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala, Glory to God. ”
No, he can’t be a jihadist, right guys? I mean, the “Soldier of Allah” thing technically means he’s a jihadist, but he can’t be one right? He must have just snapped, right? I mean, religion can’t be the reason why he killed, right?
Guys? Maybe I’m the whack job because I point this out right?
Participantevidence mounts
“United States Army Major Nidal Hasan proclaimed himself a “soldier of Allah” on private business cards he obtained over the Internet and kept in a box at his apartment near Fort Hood, Texas.”
“The cards make no mention of his military affiliation, but underneath his name he listed himself as SoA (SWT). SoA is commonly used on jihadist Web sites as the acronym for Soldier of Allah, according to investigators and experts who have studied such sites. SWT is commonly used by Muslims as an acronym for Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala, Glory to God. ”
No, he can’t be a jihadist, right guys? I mean, the “Soldier of Allah” thing technically means he’s a jihadist, but he can’t be one right? He must have just snapped, right? I mean, religion can’t be the reason why he killed, right?
Guys? Maybe I’m the whack job because I point this out right?
Participantevidence mounts
“United States Army Major Nidal Hasan proclaimed himself a “soldier of Allah” on private business cards he obtained over the Internet and kept in a box at his apartment near Fort Hood, Texas.”
“The cards make no mention of his military affiliation, but underneath his name he listed himself as SoA (SWT). SoA is commonly used on jihadist Web sites as the acronym for Soldier of Allah, according to investigators and experts who have studied such sites. SWT is commonly used by Muslims as an acronym for Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala, Glory to God. ”
No, he can’t be a jihadist, right guys? I mean, the “Soldier of Allah” thing technically means he’s a jihadist, but he can’t be one right? He must have just snapped, right? I mean, religion can’t be the reason why he killed, right?
Guys? Maybe I’m the whack job because I point this out right?
Participant[quote=Arraya]
Was it a religion the drove him to do what he did or extreme psychological duress like John Russell a few months ago? This is the line the surveyor so wants everybody to understand. That it was his muslim-ness. And muslim-ness should be on trial. We start to go into orwellian thought control with this sort of BS, it’s just like mccarthyism, what was he thinking. When did he switch to the other side. Nonsense.
[/quote]Once again, Arraya totally misrepresents my position. I am not saying to persecute muslims just because they are muslims. However, it is very clear that the actions Hasan commited showed his jihadist ideology, which come from his understanding of Islam. And Islam has a basis in violence and in the teaching of violence.
Once again Arraya displays a true lack of logical understanding of the issues through the use of the straw man argument, by accusing me of Orwellian and McCarthyism.
Arraya would like you to totally dismiss the fact that Hasan is a jihadist, instead offering the twisted logic shown above and just accept the idea of Hasan as a crazy person who just got set off. Unfortunately, the facts don’t add up to that conclusion. The facts more readily point to the idea that Hasan was a jihadist, that he based his belief on koranic law and principles. Unfortunately that is a hard idea to accept.
Because many people refuse to look into this issue, this idea is dismissed so casually, that was why Hasan was able to kill those people in the first place.
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