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Participant[quote=Arraya]Ok, you were right about him being what ever you want to call him, terrorist jihadist. No freaking doubt.[/quote]
I cannot claim to be an expert, but Hasan fit the modus operandi. Despite what others may believe, I did not immediately assume that it was a jihadist or even a terrorist attack. However, when the video came out with him giving out korans and wearing the white robe just before the attack, it was clear he was following in the footsteps of many jihadists before him.
But so far, I’ve been proven right. I said he was a jihadist. I said he was a terrorist. I said that he had islamic motives.
Surveyor 1, Arraya 0.
That’s what happens when you use facts.
surveyor
Participant[quote=Arraya]Ok, you were right about him being what ever you want to call him, terrorist jihadist. No freaking doubt.[/quote]
I cannot claim to be an expert, but Hasan fit the modus operandi. Despite what others may believe, I did not immediately assume that it was a jihadist or even a terrorist attack. However, when the video came out with him giving out korans and wearing the white robe just before the attack, it was clear he was following in the footsteps of many jihadists before him.
But so far, I’ve been proven right. I said he was a jihadist. I said he was a terrorist. I said that he had islamic motives.
Surveyor 1, Arraya 0.
That’s what happens when you use facts.
surveyor
Participant[quote=Arraya]Ok, you were right about him being what ever you want to call him, terrorist jihadist. No freaking doubt.[/quote]
I cannot claim to be an expert, but Hasan fit the modus operandi. Despite what others may believe, I did not immediately assume that it was a jihadist or even a terrorist attack. However, when the video came out with him giving out korans and wearing the white robe just before the attack, it was clear he was following in the footsteps of many jihadists before him.
But so far, I’ve been proven right. I said he was a jihadist. I said he was a terrorist. I said that he had islamic motives.
Surveyor 1, Arraya 0.
That’s what happens when you use facts.
surveyor
Participantprojection alerts
Hey Arraya, I didn’t call you tin foil hat, I just said I should probably mail you a tin foil hat. I do not like to engage in personal attacks despite being the subject of frequent personal attacks.
As for the facts, (reading comprehension time), I was referring to the fact that I have facts on my side that Hasan was a jihadist. Your position, that religion and him being muslim had nothing to do with his actions and that it was some sort of CIA conspiracy – that had no facts. And it still has no facts.
I’ve told you very simply – the CIA and the other agencies were looking through the same beer goggles you were looking through – that it was just not possible the idea that a muslim, who starts studying the koran in depth and becomes more devout towards the koranic faith would become a jihadist. Most people, even most muslims, do not know how and why a person who becomes more devout in the islamic faith can become a jihadist. So I more than understand the CIA and the other infidels who didn’t know.
It’s a much more simplier and more obvious explanation than your Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, seriously, your answer to this is that this is now a conspiracy? A CIA level conspiracy? Really? And I’m in the fairy tale world?
Seriously that tin hat is starting to look good on you the more you post. 9/11 was committed by us, right?
surveyor
Participantprojection alerts
Hey Arraya, I didn’t call you tin foil hat, I just said I should probably mail you a tin foil hat. I do not like to engage in personal attacks despite being the subject of frequent personal attacks.
As for the facts, (reading comprehension time), I was referring to the fact that I have facts on my side that Hasan was a jihadist. Your position, that religion and him being muslim had nothing to do with his actions and that it was some sort of CIA conspiracy – that had no facts. And it still has no facts.
I’ve told you very simply – the CIA and the other agencies were looking through the same beer goggles you were looking through – that it was just not possible the idea that a muslim, who starts studying the koran in depth and becomes more devout towards the koranic faith would become a jihadist. Most people, even most muslims, do not know how and why a person who becomes more devout in the islamic faith can become a jihadist. So I more than understand the CIA and the other infidels who didn’t know.
It’s a much more simplier and more obvious explanation than your Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, seriously, your answer to this is that this is now a conspiracy? A CIA level conspiracy? Really? And I’m in the fairy tale world?
Seriously that tin hat is starting to look good on you the more you post. 9/11 was committed by us, right?
surveyor
Participantprojection alerts
Hey Arraya, I didn’t call you tin foil hat, I just said I should probably mail you a tin foil hat. I do not like to engage in personal attacks despite being the subject of frequent personal attacks.
As for the facts, (reading comprehension time), I was referring to the fact that I have facts on my side that Hasan was a jihadist. Your position, that religion and him being muslim had nothing to do with his actions and that it was some sort of CIA conspiracy – that had no facts. And it still has no facts.
I’ve told you very simply – the CIA and the other agencies were looking through the same beer goggles you were looking through – that it was just not possible the idea that a muslim, who starts studying the koran in depth and becomes more devout towards the koranic faith would become a jihadist. Most people, even most muslims, do not know how and why a person who becomes more devout in the islamic faith can become a jihadist. So I more than understand the CIA and the other infidels who didn’t know.
It’s a much more simplier and more obvious explanation than your Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, seriously, your answer to this is that this is now a conspiracy? A CIA level conspiracy? Really? And I’m in the fairy tale world?
Seriously that tin hat is starting to look good on you the more you post. 9/11 was committed by us, right?
surveyor
Participantprojection alerts
Hey Arraya, I didn’t call you tin foil hat, I just said I should probably mail you a tin foil hat. I do not like to engage in personal attacks despite being the subject of frequent personal attacks.
As for the facts, (reading comprehension time), I was referring to the fact that I have facts on my side that Hasan was a jihadist. Your position, that religion and him being muslim had nothing to do with his actions and that it was some sort of CIA conspiracy – that had no facts. And it still has no facts.
I’ve told you very simply – the CIA and the other agencies were looking through the same beer goggles you were looking through – that it was just not possible the idea that a muslim, who starts studying the koran in depth and becomes more devout towards the koranic faith would become a jihadist. Most people, even most muslims, do not know how and why a person who becomes more devout in the islamic faith can become a jihadist. So I more than understand the CIA and the other infidels who didn’t know.
It’s a much more simplier and more obvious explanation than your Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, seriously, your answer to this is that this is now a conspiracy? A CIA level conspiracy? Really? And I’m in the fairy tale world?
Seriously that tin hat is starting to look good on you the more you post. 9/11 was committed by us, right?
surveyor
Participantprojection alerts
Hey Arraya, I didn’t call you tin foil hat, I just said I should probably mail you a tin foil hat. I do not like to engage in personal attacks despite being the subject of frequent personal attacks.
As for the facts, (reading comprehension time), I was referring to the fact that I have facts on my side that Hasan was a jihadist. Your position, that religion and him being muslim had nothing to do with his actions and that it was some sort of CIA conspiracy – that had no facts. And it still has no facts.
I’ve told you very simply – the CIA and the other agencies were looking through the same beer goggles you were looking through – that it was just not possible the idea that a muslim, who starts studying the koran in depth and becomes more devout towards the koranic faith would become a jihadist. Most people, even most muslims, do not know how and why a person who becomes more devout in the islamic faith can become a jihadist. So I more than understand the CIA and the other infidels who didn’t know.
It’s a much more simplier and more obvious explanation than your Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, seriously, your answer to this is that this is now a conspiracy? A CIA level conspiracy? Really? And I’m in the fairy tale world?
Seriously that tin hat is starting to look good on you the more you post. 9/11 was committed by us, right?
surveyor
Participant[quote=surveyor]I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. [/quote]
[quote=Arraya]
How do you fight Al-CIA-Duh
Obviously you need to work for the CIA.
What a joke.[/quote]And there it is. =sigh= God I hate being proved correct. I was kind of hoping Arraya would be more reasonable.
Sort of the same hopes I had for dan, but then life is full of disappointments.
surveyor
Participant[quote=surveyor]I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. [/quote]
[quote=Arraya]
How do you fight Al-CIA-Duh
Obviously you need to work for the CIA.
What a joke.[/quote]And there it is. =sigh= God I hate being proved correct. I was kind of hoping Arraya would be more reasonable.
Sort of the same hopes I had for dan, but then life is full of disappointments.
surveyor
Participant[quote=surveyor]I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. [/quote]
[quote=Arraya]
How do you fight Al-CIA-Duh
Obviously you need to work for the CIA.
What a joke.[/quote]And there it is. =sigh= God I hate being proved correct. I was kind of hoping Arraya would be more reasonable.
Sort of the same hopes I had for dan, but then life is full of disappointments.
surveyor
Participant[quote=surveyor]I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. [/quote]
[quote=Arraya]
How do you fight Al-CIA-Duh
Obviously you need to work for the CIA.
What a joke.[/quote]And there it is. =sigh= God I hate being proved correct. I was kind of hoping Arraya would be more reasonable.
Sort of the same hopes I had for dan, but then life is full of disappointments.
surveyor
Participant[quote=surveyor]I got facts. Arraya doesn’t and is about a couple of statements away from being a truther. [/quote]
[quote=Arraya]
How do you fight Al-CIA-Duh
Obviously you need to work for the CIA.
What a joke.[/quote]And there it is. =sigh= God I hate being proved correct. I was kind of hoping Arraya would be more reasonable.
Sort of the same hopes I had for dan, but then life is full of disappointments.
surveyor
Participantrussell:
I said that I have never advocated that position because I, as an Asian American, am fully aware of what happened to the Japanese Americans in World War II and because of that I would never advocate that position.
I will be the first in line to defend anybody, especially muslims, if they will stand up with us Americans and fight the jihadists. If they believe in our core principles and fight with us, I will be more than happy to fight by their side.
However, that doesn’t make me blind to the things that the jihadists are saying. How do you expect to fight the jihadists if you don’t even understand them? When an attack occurs, the idea that their religious doctrine could be behind their attack is instantly dismissed. Is that the way to properly understand the motivations of people who want to attack us?
It would help if we could understand these facts instead of calling each other names and bigots. Once you do that, you can’t have a proper discussion.
Right dan?
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