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sobmaz
ParticipantOh for Pete’s sake!!!
This is a sad story but Government aid? That is life, that is Capitalism!
They need to live in that house as long as possible rent free and then move into a rental and start over.
We are not talking homelessness, we are talking renting versus buying.
I am a renter because banks and the federal government are spending my tax money keeping this bubble inflated. As sad as this story is why do these people deserve any sort of aid to keep them in a house they can’t afford while I as a renter get nothing but the bill?
ParticipantIf our Government, our Beserk Government is successful in altering the housing market, there will be repercussions.
Gold will too go Beserk if our Beserk Government stamps out the free market.
Gold will always be a barbarous relic only as long as Government acts semi responsible and allows the free market to flow. On the other hand if our Government acts totally irresponsible and tries to crush the free market, Gold will be King!
Thank God in 2002 I saw that Gold was beginning to awaken to the NUT cases in Washington who control the worlds reserve currency. I just didn’t have a clue at how fast they would take us down. There is still disbelief in the markets and people actually think there is hope that our elected leaders will once again act as responsible stewards of the Worlds Reserve Currency.
FAT CHANCE!
Get out of Gold if you think responsibility and restraint is coming to Washington. Run to Gold if you think our Politicians are only thinking of themselves.
ParticipantIf our Government, our Beserk Government is successful in altering the housing market, there will be repercussions.
Gold will too go Beserk if our Beserk Government stamps out the free market.
Gold will always be a barbarous relic only as long as Government acts semi responsible and allows the free market to flow. On the other hand if our Government acts totally irresponsible and tries to crush the free market, Gold will be King!
Thank God in 2002 I saw that Gold was beginning to awaken to the NUT cases in Washington who control the worlds reserve currency. I just didn’t have a clue at how fast they would take us down. There is still disbelief in the markets and people actually think there is hope that our elected leaders will once again act as responsible stewards of the Worlds Reserve Currency.
FAT CHANCE!
Get out of Gold if you think responsibility and restraint is coming to Washington. Run to Gold if you think our Politicians are only thinking of themselves.
ParticipantIf our Government, our Beserk Government is successful in altering the housing market, there will be repercussions.
Gold will too go Beserk if our Beserk Government stamps out the free market.
Gold will always be a barbarous relic only as long as Government acts semi responsible and allows the free market to flow. On the other hand if our Government acts totally irresponsible and tries to crush the free market, Gold will be King!
Thank God in 2002 I saw that Gold was beginning to awaken to the NUT cases in Washington who control the worlds reserve currency. I just didn’t have a clue at how fast they would take us down. There is still disbelief in the markets and people actually think there is hope that our elected leaders will once again act as responsible stewards of the Worlds Reserve Currency.
FAT CHANCE!
Get out of Gold if you think responsibility and restraint is coming to Washington. Run to Gold if you think our Politicians are only thinking of themselves.
ParticipantIf our Government, our Beserk Government is successful in altering the housing market, there will be repercussions.
Gold will too go Beserk if our Beserk Government stamps out the free market.
Gold will always be a barbarous relic only as long as Government acts semi responsible and allows the free market to flow. On the other hand if our Government acts totally irresponsible and tries to crush the free market, Gold will be King!
Thank God in 2002 I saw that Gold was beginning to awaken to the NUT cases in Washington who control the worlds reserve currency. I just didn’t have a clue at how fast they would take us down. There is still disbelief in the markets and people actually think there is hope that our elected leaders will once again act as responsible stewards of the Worlds Reserve Currency.
FAT CHANCE!
Get out of Gold if you think responsibility and restraint is coming to Washington. Run to Gold if you think our Politicians are only thinking of themselves.
ParticipantIf our Government, our Beserk Government is successful in altering the housing market, there will be repercussions.
Gold will too go Beserk if our Beserk Government stamps out the free market.
Gold will always be a barbarous relic only as long as Government acts semi responsible and allows the free market to flow. On the other hand if our Government acts totally irresponsible and tries to crush the free market, Gold will be King!
Thank God in 2002 I saw that Gold was beginning to awaken to the NUT cases in Washington who control the worlds reserve currency. I just didn’t have a clue at how fast they would take us down. There is still disbelief in the markets and people actually think there is hope that our elected leaders will once again act as responsible stewards of the Worlds Reserve Currency.
FAT CHANCE!
Get out of Gold if you think responsibility and restraint is coming to Washington. Run to Gold if you think our Politicians are only thinking of themselves.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]That’s what the Republicans are hoping.
[quote=sobmaz]
The Health care plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.
In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.
But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?
Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.
If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]
How does saving 7% of GDP mean we have to tighten our belts and give up nice houses and cars? That does not compute.
Forget about France, how about Germanys healthcare system? How about Switzerlands? Norways? Demarks? They all spend 8%ish of GDP, that means you SAVE MONEY compared to 15%!!
Democrats have been talking about a one payer system for years and the people took to the streets and elected them into power. First the Houses and then the Presidency. They had a mandate.
As soon as Dems got complete control rather than taking the bull by the horns (one payer system) they caved and decided the Republicans might not like a one payer system, so came up with this very expensive Hybrid that will do nothing to stem spiraling health costs.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]That’s what the Republicans are hoping.
[quote=sobmaz]
The Health care plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.
In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.
But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?
Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.
If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]
How does saving 7% of GDP mean we have to tighten our belts and give up nice houses and cars? That does not compute.
Forget about France, how about Germanys healthcare system? How about Switzerlands? Norways? Demarks? They all spend 8%ish of GDP, that means you SAVE MONEY compared to 15%!!
Democrats have been talking about a one payer system for years and the people took to the streets and elected them into power. First the Houses and then the Presidency. They had a mandate.
As soon as Dems got complete control rather than taking the bull by the horns (one payer system) they caved and decided the Republicans might not like a one payer system, so came up with this very expensive Hybrid that will do nothing to stem spiraling health costs.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]That’s what the Republicans are hoping.
[quote=sobmaz]
The Health care plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.
In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.
But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?
Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.
If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]
How does saving 7% of GDP mean we have to tighten our belts and give up nice houses and cars? That does not compute.
Forget about France, how about Germanys healthcare system? How about Switzerlands? Norways? Demarks? They all spend 8%ish of GDP, that means you SAVE MONEY compared to 15%!!
Democrats have been talking about a one payer system for years and the people took to the streets and elected them into power. First the Houses and then the Presidency. They had a mandate.
As soon as Dems got complete control rather than taking the bull by the horns (one payer system) they caved and decided the Republicans might not like a one payer system, so came up with this very expensive Hybrid that will do nothing to stem spiraling health costs.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]That’s what the Republicans are hoping.
[quote=sobmaz]
The Health care plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.
In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.
But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?
Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.
If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]
How does saving 7% of GDP mean we have to tighten our belts and give up nice houses and cars? That does not compute.
Forget about France, how about Germanys healthcare system? How about Switzerlands? Norways? Demarks? They all spend 8%ish of GDP, that means you SAVE MONEY compared to 15%!!
Democrats have been talking about a one payer system for years and the people took to the streets and elected them into power. First the Houses and then the Presidency. They had a mandate.
As soon as Dems got complete control rather than taking the bull by the horns (one payer system) they caved and decided the Republicans might not like a one payer system, so came up with this very expensive Hybrid that will do nothing to stem spiraling health costs.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]That’s what the Republicans are hoping.
[quote=sobmaz]
The Health care plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.
In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.
But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?
Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.
If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]
How does saving 7% of GDP mean we have to tighten our belts and give up nice houses and cars? That does not compute.
Forget about France, how about Germanys healthcare system? How about Switzerlands? Norways? Demarks? They all spend 8%ish of GDP, that means you SAVE MONEY compared to 15%!!
Democrats have been talking about a one payer system for years and the people took to the streets and elected them into power. First the Houses and then the Presidency. They had a mandate.
As soon as Dems got complete control rather than taking the bull by the horns (one payer system) they caved and decided the Republicans might not like a one payer system, so came up with this very expensive Hybrid that will do nothing to stem spiraling health costs.
ParticipantI couldn’t have said it better. Anyone who claims you are just a disgruntled Republican is small minded and follows their political party blindly.
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
Obama recently came to the legal defence of John Woo, the Bush Justice Department fellow who justified legal torture.
There is little difference between Dems and Republicans any more, the only difference is Republicans have sold their soul to the Religous Fanatics as well as Big Money, the Dems just sold out to Big Money.
ParticipantI couldn’t have said it better. Anyone who claims you are just a disgruntled Republican is small minded and follows their political party blindly.
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
Obama recently came to the legal defence of John Woo, the Bush Justice Department fellow who justified legal torture.
There is little difference between Dems and Republicans any more, the only difference is Republicans have sold their soul to the Religous Fanatics as well as Big Money, the Dems just sold out to Big Money.
ParticipantI couldn’t have said it better. Anyone who claims you are just a disgruntled Republican is small minded and follows their political party blindly.
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
Obama recently came to the legal defence of John Woo, the Bush Justice Department fellow who justified legal torture.
There is little difference between Dems and Republicans any more, the only difference is Republicans have sold their soul to the Religous Fanatics as well as Big Money, the Dems just sold out to Big Money.
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