[SK in CV]

For socrattt:

I’m quite sure I haven’t claimed I was a moderate. I’m not even close. But neither have I expressed any ideological mantras, least of all “Obama is the messiah”. I live in the real world. Faith, like yours, is fantasy. Whether conservative or liberal, or Christianity or Islam, faith is religion. I have none in anything other than the capacity of the human mind. I am a believer in almost nothing.

You should have noted, up to this point, I haven’t even expressed any opionon on the bill. I certainly don’t think it’s fair. But real politik rarely is. First I pointed out your failure to fairly represent what the bill does, and secondly, the flaws in your arguments against the bill.

If I missed one of your questions, I apologize. It wasn’t intentional. After reviewing the thread, I still don’t see it. If you’re interested, restate it, I’ll be glad to answer.

[SK in CV]

For socrattt:

I’m quite sure I haven’t claimed I was a moderate. I’m not even close. But neither have I expressed any ideological mantras, least of all “Obama is the messiah”. I live in the real world. Faith, like yours, is fantasy. Whether conservative or liberal, or Christianity or Islam, faith is religion. I have none in anything other than the capacity of the human mind. I am a believer in almost nothing.

You should have noted, up to this point, I haven’t even expressed any opionon on the bill. I certainly don’t think it’s fair. But real politik rarely is. First I pointed out your failure to fairly represent what the bill does, and secondly, the flaws in your arguments against the bill.

If I missed one of your questions, I apologize. It wasn’t intentional. After reviewing the thread, I still don’t see it. If you’re interested, restate it, I’ll be glad to answer.

[SK in CV]

For socrattt:

I’m quite sure I haven’t claimed I was a moderate. I’m not even close. But neither have I expressed any ideological mantras, least of all “Obama is the messiah”. I live in the real world. Faith, like yours, is fantasy. Whether conservative or liberal, or Christianity or Islam, faith is religion. I have none in anything other than the capacity of the human mind. I am a believer in almost nothing.

You should have noted, up to this point, I haven’t even expressed any opionon on the bill. I certainly don’t think it’s fair. But real politik rarely is. First I pointed out your failure to fairly represent what the bill does, and secondly, the flaws in your arguments against the bill.

If I missed one of your questions, I apologize. It wasn’t intentional. After reviewing the thread, I still don’t see it. If you’re interested, restate it, I’ll be glad to answer.

[SK in CV]

For socrattt:

I’m quite sure I haven’t claimed I was a moderate. I’m not even close. But neither have I expressed any ideological mantras, least of all “Obama is the messiah”. I live in the real world. Faith, like yours, is fantasy. Whether conservative or liberal, or Christianity or Islam, faith is religion. I have none in anything other than the capacity of the human mind. I am a believer in almost nothing.

You should have noted, up to this point, I haven’t even expressed any opionon on the bill. I certainly don’t think it’s fair. But real politik rarely is. First I pointed out your failure to fairly represent what the bill does, and secondly, the flaws in your arguments against the bill.

If I missed one of your questions, I apologize. It wasn’t intentional. After reviewing the thread, I still don’t see it. If you’re interested, restate it, I’ll be glad to answer.

[SK in CV]

[quote=socrattt]
SK, I am very impressed that you can assume I am a religious zealot from my comments above, but call me whatever makes you feel better!!![/quote]

Your religion is your right wing ideology, which has adopted “socialism” as the nasty label du jour. It is based on faith, not reason. Which makes it perfectly analagous to religion.

[SK in CV]

[quote=socrattt]
SK, I am very impressed that you can assume I am a religious zealot from my comments above, but call me whatever makes you feel better!!![/quote]

Your religion is your right wing ideology, which has adopted “socialism” as the nasty label du jour. It is based on faith, not reason. Which makes it perfectly analagous to religion.

[SK in CV]

[quote=socrattt]
SK, I am very impressed that you can assume I am a religious zealot from my comments above, but call me whatever makes you feel better!!![/quote]

Your religion is your right wing ideology, which has adopted “socialism” as the nasty label du jour. It is based on faith, not reason. Which makes it perfectly analagous to religion.

[SK in CV]

[quote=socrattt]
SK, I am very impressed that you can assume I am a religious zealot from my comments above, but call me whatever makes you feel better!!![/quote]

Your religion is your right wing ideology, which has adopted “socialism” as the nasty label du jour. It is based on faith, not reason. Which makes it perfectly analagous to religion.

[SK in CV]

[quote=socrattt]
SK, I am very impressed that you can assume I am a religious zealot from my comments above, but call me whatever makes you feel better!!![/quote]

Your religion is your right wing ideology, which has adopted “socialism” as the nasty label du jour. It is based on faith, not reason. Which makes it perfectly analagous to religion.

[SK in CV]

LOL Socratt

It seems you are the one making the excuses of why you shouldn’t have to follow rules that everyone else, who do what you do, must follow. Of why your creativity is being killed by others.

I’m just using generally accepted definitions of the words instead of making up new ones. What you don’t know, apparently, is what socialism is and means. A rabid idealogue, I am not. And I know better than to attempt rational discussion with a religious zealot. Have a good day.

[SK in CV]

LOL Socratt

It seems you are the one making the excuses of why you shouldn’t have to follow rules that everyone else, who do what you do, must follow. Of why your creativity is being killed by others.

I’m just using generally accepted definitions of the words instead of making up new ones. What you don’t know, apparently, is what socialism is and means. A rabid idealogue, I am not. And I know better than to attempt rational discussion with a religious zealot. Have a good day.

[SK in CV]

LOL Socratt

It seems you are the one making the excuses of why you shouldn’t have to follow rules that everyone else, who do what you do, must follow. Of why your creativity is being killed by others.

I’m just using generally accepted definitions of the words instead of making up new ones. What you don’t know, apparently, is what socialism is and means. A rabid idealogue, I am not. And I know better than to attempt rational discussion with a religious zealot. Have a good day.

[SK in CV]

LOL Socratt

It seems you are the one making the excuses of why you shouldn’t have to follow rules that everyone else, who do what you do, must follow. Of why your creativity is being killed by others.

I’m just using generally accepted definitions of the words instead of making up new ones. What you don’t know, apparently, is what socialism is and means. A rabid idealogue, I am not. And I know better than to attempt rational discussion with a religious zealot. Have a good day.

[SK in CV]

LOL Socratt

It seems you are the one making the excuses of why you shouldn’t have to follow rules that everyone else, who do what you do, must follow. Of why your creativity is being killed by others.

I’m just using generally accepted definitions of the words instead of making up new ones. What you don’t know, apparently, is what socialism is and means. A rabid idealogue, I am not. And I know better than to attempt rational discussion with a religious zealot. Have a good day.

[SK in CV]

[quote]Blah, blah, blah
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Let’s focus on your joint ventures. If you’re lending in all 50 states, YOU ARE A LENDER! If your JV projects include seller financing, YOU ARE A LENDER! It might not be your main business, but if you want to do it, you have to follow the rules. Just like retailers who offer in house financing have to follow consumer financing rules. Just like lawyers who provide escrow services have to follow rules. It doesn nothing to destroy creative thinking. Go create all you want. But if it’s a significant part of your business, then why on earth wouldn’t you want to gain the expertise to do it correctly? Why fight it?

And you’re going to have to explain to me how “socialism” fits into this discussion. It doesn’t. This is about consumer protection, not redistribution of resources. Nor does the “socialism” tag fit giving support to the banks and financial institutions which were part and parcel to the economic crisis. When government is all about big business, that would be facism, not socialism. But apperently socialism has a better ring to it, so keep using it, whether it fits or not.

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