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sdduuuude
ParticipantMy favorite topic but I’m late to the party.
Lots of good thoughts in there.I have no issues with the idea of paying for grades, but I’m not sure it is going to work.
If you have a kid who has been given allowance his whole life and makes his own decisions about money and understands the value of money (i.e. he isn’t coming to mom and dad every time he needs something), then it might work, but I’d be surprised if such a kid had trouble with grades anyway.
If you have a kid who isn’t used to handling his own money and he has to ask his parents to buy them things, then the pay-for-grades concept isn’t going to work because they will have no clue what $1000 means.
I say give him a chance to succeed on his own first, without the incentive. If he is struggling, try to understand why and react accordingly. I think it is better for him to get self-motivated A’s and B’s than cash-motivated A’s only.
I’d suggest not paying for grades the first year. See how the grades are to start with. Maybe he’ll be a scholastic star and you will have more concerns about his social skills. In that case, Temecula’s idea of giving rewards that are based on socializing is especially good.
For the first year of HS, avoid buying stuff other than food and basic clothes for him, give an allowance based on housework and see what he spends the money on. Once you give your kids the freedom to buy stuff with their own money, you learn quickly what they love (maybe ant farms ?) and then you either can use those things as incentive, or additional money.
Commincation by you to understand what motivates him is the key. Sounds like you don’t really know, which is OK, but taking time to find out will serve you better than assuming cash will do the trick.
sdduuuude
ParticipantMy favorite topic but I’m late to the party.
Lots of good thoughts in there.I have no issues with the idea of paying for grades, but I’m not sure it is going to work.
If you have a kid who has been given allowance his whole life and makes his own decisions about money and understands the value of money (i.e. he isn’t coming to mom and dad every time he needs something), then it might work, but I’d be surprised if such a kid had trouble with grades anyway.
If you have a kid who isn’t used to handling his own money and he has to ask his parents to buy them things, then the pay-for-grades concept isn’t going to work because they will have no clue what $1000 means.
I say give him a chance to succeed on his own first, without the incentive. If he is struggling, try to understand why and react accordingly. I think it is better for him to get self-motivated A’s and B’s than cash-motivated A’s only.
I’d suggest not paying for grades the first year. See how the grades are to start with. Maybe he’ll be a scholastic star and you will have more concerns about his social skills. In that case, Temecula’s idea of giving rewards that are based on socializing is especially good.
For the first year of HS, avoid buying stuff other than food and basic clothes for him, give an allowance based on housework and see what he spends the money on. Once you give your kids the freedom to buy stuff with their own money, you learn quickly what they love (maybe ant farms ?) and then you either can use those things as incentive, or additional money.
Commincation by you to understand what motivates him is the key. Sounds like you don’t really know, which is OK, but taking time to find out will serve you better than assuming cash will do the trick.
sdduuuude
ParticipantMy favorite topic but I’m late to the party.
Lots of good thoughts in there.I have no issues with the idea of paying for grades, but I’m not sure it is going to work.
If you have a kid who has been given allowance his whole life and makes his own decisions about money and understands the value of money (i.e. he isn’t coming to mom and dad every time he needs something), then it might work, but I’d be surprised if such a kid had trouble with grades anyway.
If you have a kid who isn’t used to handling his own money and he has to ask his parents to buy them things, then the pay-for-grades concept isn’t going to work because they will have no clue what $1000 means.
I say give him a chance to succeed on his own first, without the incentive. If he is struggling, try to understand why and react accordingly. I think it is better for him to get self-motivated A’s and B’s than cash-motivated A’s only.
I’d suggest not paying for grades the first year. See how the grades are to start with. Maybe he’ll be a scholastic star and you will have more concerns about his social skills. In that case, Temecula’s idea of giving rewards that are based on socializing is especially good.
For the first year of HS, avoid buying stuff other than food and basic clothes for him, give an allowance based on housework and see what he spends the money on. Once you give your kids the freedom to buy stuff with their own money, you learn quickly what they love (maybe ant farms ?) and then you either can use those things as incentive, or additional money.
Commincation by you to understand what motivates him is the key. Sounds like you don’t really know, which is OK, but taking time to find out will serve you better than assuming cash will do the trick.
June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM in reply to: San Diego Unified SD: Trustee spearheads idea to divide school district #414073sdduuuude
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And the voucher system as you described will achieve the exact opposite, by mixing kids with different skills and socioeconomic backgrounds even further.[/quote]Don’t count on it. When parents get to choose their school, it means that parents who like the same things will tend to choose the same schools.
If the parents choose first, then a lottery is used to decide who gets their first choice, then there is a bit of self-selection going on there.
Schools may even tend to gear their school to a specific kind of student.
June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM in reply to: San Diego Unified SD: Trustee spearheads idea to divide school district #414312sdduuuude
Participant[quote=AN]
And the voucher system as you described will achieve the exact opposite, by mixing kids with different skills and socioeconomic backgrounds even further.[/quote]Don’t count on it. When parents get to choose their school, it means that parents who like the same things will tend to choose the same schools.
If the parents choose first, then a lottery is used to decide who gets their first choice, then there is a bit of self-selection going on there.
Schools may even tend to gear their school to a specific kind of student.
June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM in reply to: San Diego Unified SD: Trustee spearheads idea to divide school district #414566sdduuuude
Participant[quote=AN]
And the voucher system as you described will achieve the exact opposite, by mixing kids with different skills and socioeconomic backgrounds even further.[/quote]Don’t count on it. When parents get to choose their school, it means that parents who like the same things will tend to choose the same schools.
If the parents choose first, then a lottery is used to decide who gets their first choice, then there is a bit of self-selection going on there.
Schools may even tend to gear their school to a specific kind of student.
June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM in reply to: San Diego Unified SD: Trustee spearheads idea to divide school district #414633sdduuuude
Participant[quote=AN]
And the voucher system as you described will achieve the exact opposite, by mixing kids with different skills and socioeconomic backgrounds even further.[/quote]Don’t count on it. When parents get to choose their school, it means that parents who like the same things will tend to choose the same schools.
If the parents choose first, then a lottery is used to decide who gets their first choice, then there is a bit of self-selection going on there.
Schools may even tend to gear their school to a specific kind of student.
June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM in reply to: San Diego Unified SD: Trustee spearheads idea to divide school district #414788sdduuuude
Participant[quote=AN]
And the voucher system as you described will achieve the exact opposite, by mixing kids with different skills and socioeconomic backgrounds even further.[/quote]Don’t count on it. When parents get to choose their school, it means that parents who like the same things will tend to choose the same schools.
If the parents choose first, then a lottery is used to decide who gets their first choice, then there is a bit of self-selection going on there.
Schools may even tend to gear their school to a specific kind of student.
June 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM in reply to: Predictions on when it will become easier/cheaper to buy a house? #412683sdduuuude
ParticipantMy intuition says “late fall 2009” but my analytical side is telling me “everything takes about a year longer than your intuition thinks it will take.”
As days go by, I feel more and more comfortable with my earlier suspicions of a double recession wherein we come out of this one this year, then go into another one next year.
June 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM in reply to: Predictions on when it will become easier/cheaper to buy a house? #412919sdduuuude
ParticipantMy intuition says “late fall 2009” but my analytical side is telling me “everything takes about a year longer than your intuition thinks it will take.”
As days go by, I feel more and more comfortable with my earlier suspicions of a double recession wherein we come out of this one this year, then go into another one next year.
June 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM in reply to: Predictions on when it will become easier/cheaper to buy a house? #413164sdduuuude
ParticipantMy intuition says “late fall 2009” but my analytical side is telling me “everything takes about a year longer than your intuition thinks it will take.”
As days go by, I feel more and more comfortable with my earlier suspicions of a double recession wherein we come out of this one this year, then go into another one next year.
June 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM in reply to: Predictions on when it will become easier/cheaper to buy a house? #413230sdduuuude
ParticipantMy intuition says “late fall 2009” but my analytical side is telling me “everything takes about a year longer than your intuition thinks it will take.”
As days go by, I feel more and more comfortable with my earlier suspicions of a double recession wherein we come out of this one this year, then go into another one next year.
June 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM in reply to: Predictions on when it will become easier/cheaper to buy a house? #413377sdduuuude
ParticipantMy intuition says “late fall 2009” but my analytical side is telling me “everything takes about a year longer than your intuition thinks it will take.”
As days go by, I feel more and more comfortable with my earlier suspicions of a double recession wherein we come out of this one this year, then go into another one next year.
sdduuuude
ParticipantThe best strategy for a short sale is patience.
Don’t expect it to happen in less than 6 months and keep looking while the bank is “processing” the request. -
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