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sdduuuude
ParticipantI don’t consider that Clairemont. It’ is really Bay Park. This house is awfully close to the freeway and industrial areas for my liking.
sdduuuude
ParticipantI don’t consider that Clairemont. It’ is really Bay Park. This house is awfully close to the freeway and industrial areas for my liking.
sdduuuude
ParticipantI don’t consider that Clairemont. It’ is really Bay Park. This house is awfully close to the freeway and industrial areas for my liking.
April 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #539938sdduuuude
ParticipantYou guys need your own blog space, I think.
April 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540061sdduuuude
ParticipantYou guys need your own blog space, I think.
April 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540530sdduuuude
ParticipantYou guys need your own blog space, I think.
April 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540624sdduuuude
ParticipantYou guys need your own blog space, I think.
April 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540891sdduuuude
ParticipantYou guys need your own blog space, I think.
April 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #539716sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]I like sdduuuude’s answer, but I have to put Greenspam first and the ratings agencies second.
The agencies were the lynchpin to the whole mortgage crisis, so they bear huge responsibility there. However, Greenspam was asleep at the wheel for not one but two world-beating asset bubbles. No, scratch that — he wasn’t just asleep at the wheel, he was a cheerleader for both bubbles. And the mop-up from the first bubble basically created the environment that allowed the second and much worse bubble.
His “reign” was truly catastrophic and I just hope he clings to life for long enough to witness the final outcome of his legacy (the nigh-inevitable US govt funding crisis) and, if there is any justice, the resulting complete destruction of his reputation as a central banker.
Rich[/quote]
Thanks. I consider it this way in placing the agencies at the top of the list:
If you had higher rates and more expensive capital, but the ratings agencies were still over-rating junk, you could still, potentially have a bad debt crisis.
If you had low rates and cheap capital, but the debt was rated properly, the market could have a chance of moderating itself.
Your point about the first bubble, though is compelling because that help drive the housing bubble and didn’t involve the ratings agencies at all.
April 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #539837sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]I like sdduuuude’s answer, but I have to put Greenspam first and the ratings agencies second.
The agencies were the lynchpin to the whole mortgage crisis, so they bear huge responsibility there. However, Greenspam was asleep at the wheel for not one but two world-beating asset bubbles. No, scratch that — he wasn’t just asleep at the wheel, he was a cheerleader for both bubbles. And the mop-up from the first bubble basically created the environment that allowed the second and much worse bubble.
His “reign” was truly catastrophic and I just hope he clings to life for long enough to witness the final outcome of his legacy (the nigh-inevitable US govt funding crisis) and, if there is any justice, the resulting complete destruction of his reputation as a central banker.
Rich[/quote]
Thanks. I consider it this way in placing the agencies at the top of the list:
If you had higher rates and more expensive capital, but the ratings agencies were still over-rating junk, you could still, potentially have a bad debt crisis.
If you had low rates and cheap capital, but the debt was rated properly, the market could have a chance of moderating itself.
Your point about the first bubble, though is compelling because that help drive the housing bubble and didn’t involve the ratings agencies at all.
April 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540309sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]I like sdduuuude’s answer, but I have to put Greenspam first and the ratings agencies second.
The agencies were the lynchpin to the whole mortgage crisis, so they bear huge responsibility there. However, Greenspam was asleep at the wheel for not one but two world-beating asset bubbles. No, scratch that — he wasn’t just asleep at the wheel, he was a cheerleader for both bubbles. And the mop-up from the first bubble basically created the environment that allowed the second and much worse bubble.
His “reign” was truly catastrophic and I just hope he clings to life for long enough to witness the final outcome of his legacy (the nigh-inevitable US govt funding crisis) and, if there is any justice, the resulting complete destruction of his reputation as a central banker.
Rich[/quote]
Thanks. I consider it this way in placing the agencies at the top of the list:
If you had higher rates and more expensive capital, but the ratings agencies were still over-rating junk, you could still, potentially have a bad debt crisis.
If you had low rates and cheap capital, but the debt was rated properly, the market could have a chance of moderating itself.
Your point about the first bubble, though is compelling because that help drive the housing bubble and didn’t involve the ratings agencies at all.
April 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540401sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]I like sdduuuude’s answer, but I have to put Greenspam first and the ratings agencies second.
The agencies were the lynchpin to the whole mortgage crisis, so they bear huge responsibility there. However, Greenspam was asleep at the wheel for not one but two world-beating asset bubbles. No, scratch that — he wasn’t just asleep at the wheel, he was a cheerleader for both bubbles. And the mop-up from the first bubble basically created the environment that allowed the second and much worse bubble.
His “reign” was truly catastrophic and I just hope he clings to life for long enough to witness the final outcome of his legacy (the nigh-inevitable US govt funding crisis) and, if there is any justice, the resulting complete destruction of his reputation as a central banker.
Rich[/quote]
Thanks. I consider it this way in placing the agencies at the top of the list:
If you had higher rates and more expensive capital, but the ratings agencies were still over-rating junk, you could still, potentially have a bad debt crisis.
If you had low rates and cheap capital, but the debt was rated properly, the market could have a chance of moderating itself.
Your point about the first bubble, though is compelling because that help drive the housing bubble and didn’t involve the ratings agencies at all.
April 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #540671sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]I like sdduuuude’s answer, but I have to put Greenspam first and the ratings agencies second.
The agencies were the lynchpin to the whole mortgage crisis, so they bear huge responsibility there. However, Greenspam was asleep at the wheel for not one but two world-beating asset bubbles. No, scratch that — he wasn’t just asleep at the wheel, he was a cheerleader for both bubbles. And the mop-up from the first bubble basically created the environment that allowed the second and much worse bubble.
His “reign” was truly catastrophic and I just hope he clings to life for long enough to witness the final outcome of his legacy (the nigh-inevitable US govt funding crisis) and, if there is any justice, the resulting complete destruction of his reputation as a central banker.
Rich[/quote]
Thanks. I consider it this way in placing the agencies at the top of the list:
If you had higher rates and more expensive capital, but the ratings agencies were still over-rating junk, you could still, potentially have a bad debt crisis.
If you had low rates and cheap capital, but the debt was rated properly, the market could have a chance of moderating itself.
Your point about the first bubble, though is compelling because that help drive the housing bubble and didn’t involve the ratings agencies at all.
April 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM in reply to: In hindsight, who is most to blame for the Financial Crisis? #539711sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Greed.[/quote]
Greed can’t be the problem. It exists in both good and bad times.
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