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sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]I understand that taxes will always seem too high, no matter what level they are at.[/quote]
Again – it isn’t the taxes, it is the spending.
Spending around 5 or 10 percent of GDP would be just fine with me.
I agree – you need the courts and cops. Problem is, the gov has gotten out of the business of enforcing property rights and regulating fraud, and is more interested in regulating an outcome.
If they just stuck to policing violent criminals, theives of all kinds, and contractual liars, they wouldn’t need money to try and regulate/police us into a perfect society with no poverty and endless economic growth.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]I understand that taxes will always seem too high, no matter what level they are at.[/quote]
Again – it isn’t the taxes, it is the spending.
Spending around 5 or 10 percent of GDP would be just fine with me.
I agree – you need the courts and cops. Problem is, the gov has gotten out of the business of enforcing property rights and regulating fraud, and is more interested in regulating an outcome.
If they just stuck to policing violent criminals, theives of all kinds, and contractual liars, they wouldn’t need money to try and regulate/police us into a perfect society with no poverty and endless economic growth.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]I understand that taxes will always seem too high, no matter what level they are at.[/quote]
Again – it isn’t the taxes, it is the spending.
Spending around 5 or 10 percent of GDP would be just fine with me.
I agree – you need the courts and cops. Problem is, the gov has gotten out of the business of enforcing property rights and regulating fraud, and is more interested in regulating an outcome.
If they just stuck to policing violent criminals, theives of all kinds, and contractual liars, they wouldn’t need money to try and regulate/police us into a perfect society with no poverty and endless economic growth.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]You gotta give it to the prior administration though, they were smart. Why raise taxes to pay for a couple wars when you can be a hero abroad with your militarism and a hero at home with your tax cuts, all the while leaving the next guy holding the bag? Genius.[/quote]
Jeez. Scary but true. Don’t tell Congress or they’ll start a new bill to kill all the Geniuses.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]You gotta give it to the prior administration though, they were smart. Why raise taxes to pay for a couple wars when you can be a hero abroad with your militarism and a hero at home with your tax cuts, all the while leaving the next guy holding the bag? Genius.[/quote]
Jeez. Scary but true. Don’t tell Congress or they’ll start a new bill to kill all the Geniuses.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]You gotta give it to the prior administration though, they were smart. Why raise taxes to pay for a couple wars when you can be a hero abroad with your militarism and a hero at home with your tax cuts, all the while leaving the next guy holding the bag? Genius.[/quote]
Jeez. Scary but true. Don’t tell Congress or they’ll start a new bill to kill all the Geniuses.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]You gotta give it to the prior administration though, they were smart. Why raise taxes to pay for a couple wars when you can be a hero abroad with your militarism and a hero at home with your tax cuts, all the while leaving the next guy holding the bag? Genius.[/quote]
Jeez. Scary but true. Don’t tell Congress or they’ll start a new bill to kill all the Geniuses.
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]You gotta give it to the prior administration though, they were smart. Why raise taxes to pay for a couple wars when you can be a hero abroad with your militarism and a hero at home with your tax cuts, all the while leaving the next guy holding the bag? Genius.[/quote]
Jeez. Scary but true. Don’t tell Congress or they’ll start a new bill to kill all the Geniuses.
sdduuuude
ParticipantRight! (and brian, too).
[quote=afx114]So what is it then that the tea bagger anti-tax brigade are against? The fact that we pay more taxes than Mexico and Turkey? Please enlighten me.[/quote]
I’m no Tea Partier. I know little of their platform. But, they have a legitimate gripe when it comes to gov. spending. Presenting it in terms of taxes doesn’t alleviate the concern about government spending, now does it ? Is that enlightening enough ?
sdduuuude
ParticipantRight! (and brian, too).
[quote=afx114]So what is it then that the tea bagger anti-tax brigade are against? The fact that we pay more taxes than Mexico and Turkey? Please enlighten me.[/quote]
I’m no Tea Partier. I know little of their platform. But, they have a legitimate gripe when it comes to gov. spending. Presenting it in terms of taxes doesn’t alleviate the concern about government spending, now does it ? Is that enlightening enough ?
sdduuuude
ParticipantRight! (and brian, too).
[quote=afx114]So what is it then that the tea bagger anti-tax brigade are against? The fact that we pay more taxes than Mexico and Turkey? Please enlighten me.[/quote]
I’m no Tea Partier. I know little of their platform. But, they have a legitimate gripe when it comes to gov. spending. Presenting it in terms of taxes doesn’t alleviate the concern about government spending, now does it ? Is that enlightening enough ?
sdduuuude
ParticipantRight! (and brian, too).
[quote=afx114]So what is it then that the tea bagger anti-tax brigade are against? The fact that we pay more taxes than Mexico and Turkey? Please enlighten me.[/quote]
I’m no Tea Partier. I know little of their platform. But, they have a legitimate gripe when it comes to gov. spending. Presenting it in terms of taxes doesn’t alleviate the concern about government spending, now does it ? Is that enlightening enough ?
sdduuuude
ParticipantRight! (and brian, too).
[quote=afx114]So what is it then that the tea bagger anti-tax brigade are against? The fact that we pay more taxes than Mexico and Turkey? Please enlighten me.[/quote]
I’m no Tea Partier. I know little of their platform. But, they have a legitimate gripe when it comes to gov. spending. Presenting it in terms of taxes doesn’t alleviate the concern about government spending, now does it ? Is that enlightening enough ?
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=afx114]Nate Silver … [/quote]
Something not right about those numbers.
How can taxes stay level while spending as a pct of
GDP soars ? The gov must have some revenue stream other than taxes.[img_assist|nid=13190|title=Govt Spending vs GDP|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=390|height=250]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_gov_spending_history_1902_2010.png -
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