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Also, what abput the riff raff.

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[quote=Coronita]Some place outside of the US?[/quote]

Cambodia? Mmmm…nicaragua?

https://www.century21global.com/property/krang-thnong-saensokh-phnom-penh-cambodia-C21124601449-USD

My wife gave me a hard no to cambodia. Values have bern going up so fast we are gonna get priced out of phnom penh.

sd hiking trails are a little ridiculously crowded. A move is not a bad idea. My final answer is idaho

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If you want to get off, all you have to do is honestly say, i cant be fair. Can you honestly say that?

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[quote=carlsbadworker][quote=scaredyclassic]Idaho. Wait… vegas[/quote]

Utility bills will be much lower in Vegas? Come on, you know how hot it would be in summer?[/quote]

I assumed she would embrace the heat.

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Idaho. Wait… vegas

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Snap judgments, biases, stereotypes rule the day in jury selection. Unless a potential black juror is military, law enforcement, or blatantly pro-cop, watch the prosecutor twist themselves into a pretzel trying to find a way to kick them off.[/quote]

That’s not a one-way street. I’ve had fellow engineers complain that defense attorneys kick them out of jury pools because (in their opinion) it appears they think engineers will weigh scientific evidence (blood tests, etc) heavily when making a decision.[/quote]

Absolutely. Too thoughtful. Gone. Teachers, not too deep, love rules, authority figures. In. Unless black– out.

Defense lawyer: any black person: in. Accuse prosecutor of racism for kicking blacks.

The utter simplistic stupidity of it all makes one think.

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Its kind of irritating when you explain to tour kid how dumb bitcoin is and he gets a 500% return in a couple months.

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And it had a very ugly result…You see, throughout my career, I never ever sought a job with HP. I was celebrating when Carly Fiorina destroyed HP, and when many people at HP from that Palo alto office were looking for a job when I was still up there, I made sure to toss all their resumes in the trash can, among many reasons, many of their engineers had their head up in the clouds with that sorry excuse of a distributed software architecture called “e-Speak”…. I never entertained a resume from Palo Alto HP. Neither did anyone in my group…never bought any office equipment from HP, or computer, or computer peripherals with HP label on it.

For me, there was no unconsciousness in my bias. I was young them, and didn’t know better ..

So forgive me if I roll my eyes when someone mentions about how “diverse” they think they are champions of “diversity”. In my experience, most of the time people who claim they are champions of diversity are most of the time full of shit and have a lot of unconscious biases lurking in their closets that either they don’t realize or even if they do, don’t care so long as they have something they can do to easily check the diversity box….[/quote]

When I graduated with a CSCI degree in northern CA, HP did very heavy recruiting at my university and supplied most of the servers in our labs. We used bid points to do interviews, so I bid heavily on HP, Lockheed, and Chevron. I was young and stupid and didn’t know that my GPA wasn’t high enough to get hired by any of those companies. My GPA wasn’t bad, it’s just those companies wanted the very high end of the GPA curve and I wasn’t it.

When I did land a job with another company, it was in San Diego and because of my college experience with HP equipment, I was assigned projects that developed software to run on HP servers. I worked with the HP reps very closely and got to like them a lot. They had a certain way of dressing, of acting, of caring for the customer and I began modeling myself after them. They were great guys and I think learning from them has helped me in my career.

At my company, the attitude everyone had was that HW developed by HP was very high quality, but any SW they put out to run on that HW was terrible. And it was. I went to several HP SW training courses at HP’s Fullerton location and part of my mission was to ask for workarounds to the shortcomings of their SW. As it turns out, I knew more about their SW than HP instructors. One started turning to me for answers when other students asked questions! It was bizarre.

On to your bias comments. Completely agree – I have a great deal of skepticism when someone portrays themselves as unbiased. Quite often, it ends up being that they are biased in the other direction!

Everyone is biased. Whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, everyone. The best we can do, in my opinion, is to be aware of our biases and do our best to not act on them, to take them out of the equation. That is easier said that done, I know.[/quote]

Snap judgments, biases, stereotypes rule the day in jury selection. Unless a potential black juror is military, law enforcement, or blatantly pro-cop, watch the prosecutor twist themselves into a pretzel trying to find a way to kick them off.

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Augies coffee. Temecula riverside redlands.

Was right across st from riverside court, my favorite spot to regroup, pee, drink a lot of coffee. Dwight schrute stopped in one day.

Pretty sad about that one. Plus i had a few free coffees coming from punch cards i keep finding in drawers. Great pastries. Water jug. Dammitall

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[quote=Coronita][quote=paulflorez][quote=Coronita]See if I was black, I probably would have been hired according to what Eric said.[/quote]

Black engineers continue to have an abysmally low rate of representation in engineering. Sounds like Eric was feeding you bullshit. Eric would not have hired you if you were Black. Eric wanted to hire another Eric. That’s still how the industry is. People hire people who are like them and avoid hiring people who are different. Not only does it hurt under-represented minorities, but it also hurts the ability of businesses to innovate. Echo chambers are not the optimal places for innovation.[/quote]

I totally agree which is partly the reason why I was pretty happy why HP ended up the way it did, especially after Carly made it into a big mess.

There were so many other instances of unconscious bias throughout my career both when I was an intern and when I was an after I was an FTE. I won’t event begin to tell you the stories at then Motorola in Schaumburg, IL. back decades ago….beyond the original experience that I couldn’t move a computer to a different cubicle before getting a unionized furniture worker to do it that would take a few weeks, a good part of my internship there. I mean, it was pretty tough to get in to “Motorola” as a undergrad asian EE engineer because when you applied, you had to jump through all these technical hoops during the interview. But once you got there, and shared a corporate housing with the other interns , you learned that it was hard to get in as you were asian, worked your ass off, didn’t nearly get invited to as many of the off hour happy hours and etc, and just plain ackward social vibe. But if you were African American intern roommate, you got to do the cool student intern events, parties, had a well organized mentor, well organized events specifically for all the african american interns there, a support network among other fellow AA interns and engineers,marketing, finance employees..And if you were like my white roommate, you were invited to all the happy hours, the chicago cubs games, after work softball, etc… Didn’t need to slave away at the tectronox spectrum analyzer testing the gain of a recover before a deadline, got make a lot of cool powerpoint presentations about the much smaller job you did. And were guaranteed a full time job after you graduated from college the few days you had left with your internship.

I was only asked if I wanted to come back as a full time engineer several months later about 2 months before my graduation after I got a full time job at then rinky dink Qualcomm. There it was a painful interview… Directors, managers, engineers , the only thing the systems engineering group cared about was asking technical skilled questions. no bullshit 49ers questions and frankly no one at least in that dept gave a shit what color you were as long as you were good enough to answer all the questions .. I was sold….well at least until they decided to have all of us pull cables out of the base station equipment for testing 90% of the time as the primary job function…. And then when I tried to transfer into their software engineering group, met some bullshit excuse from that group why I couldn’t… I guess because by that time, Qualcomm had slightly declined, hired a bunch of people for ailing Nortel and Motorola, and brought over some of that frat boy mentality into Qualcomm much easier software engineering group, since funny thing was many of them didnt require a master’s degree and several years of work experience in software as I was told. and frankly couldn’t code themselves out of a wet paper bag if their life depended on it ..hence why their base station business was an absymal failure and eventually sold to Ericcson. So I left there too, and went to the Bay area. (Probably cost me a fortune in stock options. …slightly mitigated by two ipos up there, lol)

I think when I retire from this industry maybe in 1-2 years if they fire/lay me off with my half golden parachute, I’m contemplating publishing my memoirs on LinkedIn just to stir the pot:

“Memoirs of an Angry Asian American Engineer That Got Fucked Over Many Times By Unconscious and Conscious Bias ”
Since at that point I won’t give a shit which bridges I burn.

I would have a lot to say on both the general problem of these biases and how any sort of affirmative action is just lipstick on a pig and not really doing shit to solve the problem, just pretending to fix the problem..At least in engineering though, these biases don’t bubble up nearly as frequently as in other industries , at least not until you get into senior leadership roles.[/quote]

I would like to be your agent. I know i can sell that book.

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Black and white

Maybe i nstead of calling it AA call it AR affirmative reparations

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[quote=gzz]Shares of companies that sell goods and services at a profit, which is then distributed to shareholders.[/quote]

All based on a rapidly depleting ecosystem and dependent on population growth, in a finance system that prices in a way decoupled from value.

Maybe its not a ponzi scheme. Maybe we need a new word.

Fonzi scheme?

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Also, cake is an exchange.

Im starting to feel like human existence is a ponzi scheme

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What asset isnt a ponzi scheme?

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TEHRAN (CNN) — Declaring that freedom is “untidy,” President Hassan Rouhani, said Friday the rioting in the US was a result of “pent-up feelings” of oppression and that it would subside as Americans adjusted to life without Donald Trump.

He also asserted the rioting was not as bad as some television and newspaper reports have indicated and said there was no major crisis in Washington, the capital city, which lacks a central governing authority. The rioting, he suggested, was “part of the price” for what the Iran and Iraq have called the liberation of the US.

“Freedom’s untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things,” Rouhani said. “They’re also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. And that’s what’s going to happen here.”

Rioting, he added, was not uncommon for countries that experience significant social upheaval. “Stuff happens,” Rouhani said.

Kim Jong Un, chairman of North Korea, agreed. “This is a transition period between war and what we hope will be a much more peaceful time,” Kim jong Un said

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