[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]…
One is a necessity (assuming we want the human race to propagate), the other is just about desire….[/quote]

Survival of the human race is a bit abstract. I don’t think most women have kids out of a sense of duty to keep the human species from going extinct. (Not that there’s any danger of that. Which other large mammals number over 5 billion?) They do it because they want it, just as the man “does it” because he wants it. I don’t see either as being superior or selfless, although both have consequences that involve (different) personal sacrifices.

[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]…
One is a necessity (assuming we want the human race to propagate), the other is just about desire….[/quote]

Survival of the human race is a bit abstract. I don’t think most women have kids out of a sense of duty to keep the human species from going extinct. (Not that there’s any danger of that. Which other large mammals number over 5 billion?) They do it because they want it, just as the man “does it” because he wants it. I don’t see either as being superior or selfless, although both have consequences that involve (different) personal sacrifices.

[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]…
One is a necessity (assuming we want the human race to propagate), the other is just about desire….[/quote]

Survival of the human race is a bit abstract. I don’t think most women have kids out of a sense of duty to keep the human species from going extinct. (Not that there’s any danger of that. Which other large mammals number over 5 billion?) They do it because they want it, just as the man “does it” because he wants it. I don’t see either as being superior or selfless, although both have consequences that involve (different) personal sacrifices.

[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]…
One is a necessity (assuming we want the human race to propagate), the other is just about desire….[/quote]

Survival of the human race is a bit abstract. I don’t think most women have kids out of a sense of duty to keep the human species from going extinct. (Not that there’s any danger of that. Which other large mammals number over 5 billion?) They do it because they want it, just as the man “does it” because he wants it. I don’t see either as being superior or selfless, although both have consequences that involve (different) personal sacrifices.

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….
How low house prices go depend on unemployment, debt level, interest rate etc….[/quote]

Don’t forget the most important determinant of home prices – govt intervention (always in one direction, aimed at increasing prices).

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….
How low house prices go depend on unemployment, debt level, interest rate etc….[/quote]

Don’t forget the most important determinant of home prices – govt intervention (always in one direction, aimed at increasing prices).

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….
How low house prices go depend on unemployment, debt level, interest rate etc….[/quote]

Don’t forget the most important determinant of home prices – govt intervention (always in one direction, aimed at increasing prices).

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….
How low house prices go depend on unemployment, debt level, interest rate etc….[/quote]

Don’t forget the most important determinant of home prices – govt intervention (always in one direction, aimed at increasing prices).

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….
How low house prices go depend on unemployment, debt level, interest rate etc….[/quote]

Don’t forget the most important determinant of home prices – govt intervention (always in one direction, aimed at increasing prices).

[patientrenter]

Oxford, the bank is lending you the money to pay for the home, including the pool. Banks are in the process of losing $1-4 trillion dollars for doing this kind of thing badly in the past. I am not surprised to see them getting a little picky. I wish you the best, but I am glad to see this kind of pickiness.

On a practical note, the bank is at risk of losing $13K more if the pool is that much of a liability (and the amount it is lending is higher than it should be by that much), so why not just put down $13K more and reduce your requested loan balance by that much? If you don’t, then they are fully justified in being extra picky because they are at extra risk.

So I’d like to see you personally get a good resolution, but I am very happy to hear that some banks are sometimes getting picky again, as if they were going to lose money if anything went wrong. This is the way it should always have been, and should be in the future.

[patientrenter]

Oxford, the bank is lending you the money to pay for the home, including the pool. Banks are in the process of losing $1-4 trillion dollars for doing this kind of thing badly in the past. I am not surprised to see them getting a little picky. I wish you the best, but I am glad to see this kind of pickiness.

On a practical note, the bank is at risk of losing $13K more if the pool is that much of a liability (and the amount it is lending is higher than it should be by that much), so why not just put down $13K more and reduce your requested loan balance by that much? If you don’t, then they are fully justified in being extra picky because they are at extra risk.

So I’d like to see you personally get a good resolution, but I am very happy to hear that some banks are sometimes getting picky again, as if they were going to lose money if anything went wrong. This is the way it should always have been, and should be in the future.

[patientrenter]

Oxford, the bank is lending you the money to pay for the home, including the pool. Banks are in the process of losing $1-4 trillion dollars for doing this kind of thing badly in the past. I am not surprised to see them getting a little picky. I wish you the best, but I am glad to see this kind of pickiness.

On a practical note, the bank is at risk of losing $13K more if the pool is that much of a liability (and the amount it is lending is higher than it should be by that much), so why not just put down $13K more and reduce your requested loan balance by that much? If you don’t, then they are fully justified in being extra picky because they are at extra risk.

So I’d like to see you personally get a good resolution, but I am very happy to hear that some banks are sometimes getting picky again, as if they were going to lose money if anything went wrong. This is the way it should always have been, and should be in the future.

[patientrenter]

Oxford, the bank is lending you the money to pay for the home, including the pool. Banks are in the process of losing $1-4 trillion dollars for doing this kind of thing badly in the past. I am not surprised to see them getting a little picky. I wish you the best, but I am glad to see this kind of pickiness.

On a practical note, the bank is at risk of losing $13K more if the pool is that much of a liability (and the amount it is lending is higher than it should be by that much), so why not just put down $13K more and reduce your requested loan balance by that much? If you don’t, then they are fully justified in being extra picky because they are at extra risk.

So I’d like to see you personally get a good resolution, but I am very happy to hear that some banks are sometimes getting picky again, as if they were going to lose money if anything went wrong. This is the way it should always have been, and should be in the future.

[patientrenter]

Oxford, the bank is lending you the money to pay for the home, including the pool. Banks are in the process of losing $1-4 trillion dollars for doing this kind of thing badly in the past. I am not surprised to see them getting a little picky. I wish you the best, but I am glad to see this kind of pickiness.

On a practical note, the bank is at risk of losing $13K more if the pool is that much of a liability (and the amount it is lending is higher than it should be by that much), so why not just put down $13K more and reduce your requested loan balance by that much? If you don’t, then they are fully justified in being extra picky because they are at extra risk.

So I’d like to see you personally get a good resolution, but I am very happy to hear that some banks are sometimes getting picky again, as if they were going to lose money if anything went wrong. This is the way it should always have been, and should be in the future.

[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]……I stand by my assertion that women cannot have it all, and that their income-earning capacity is absolutely **permanently** affected by having children.[/quote]

I accept that women cannot have it all. Just as men cannot. It’s really not that different.

For example, most men would like relationships with women who are physically exceptional. The desire to engage in such relationships varies over time, just as a woman’s desire to have children varies over time, but it’s quite strong.

Following through on such a desire, for a man, can dramatically reduce his future income and the time available for the things he wants – beer, cable TV, his friends, pool, golf….. just as having kids can dramatically reduce a woman’s future time and income. That’s life.

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