[patientrenter]

I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.

[patientrenter]

I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.

[patientrenter]

I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.

[patientrenter]

I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.

[patientrenter]

[quote=paramount]I see California City as having great potential, at least for me.

I have been interested recently in acquiring inexpensive land and dropping a manufactured home on top if it.

It might be out of the way, but at least I will own it and be able to escape this hellish rat race if the need should arise.[/quote]

I have visited. I wouldn’t live there.

[patientrenter]

[quote=paramount]I see California City as having great potential, at least for me.

I have been interested recently in acquiring inexpensive land and dropping a manufactured home on top if it.

It might be out of the way, but at least I will own it and be able to escape this hellish rat race if the need should arise.[/quote]

I have visited. I wouldn’t live there.

[patientrenter]

[quote=paramount]I see California City as having great potential, at least for me.

I have been interested recently in acquiring inexpensive land and dropping a manufactured home on top if it.

It might be out of the way, but at least I will own it and be able to escape this hellish rat race if the need should arise.[/quote]

I have visited. I wouldn’t live there.

[patientrenter]

[quote=paramount]I see California City as having great potential, at least for me.

I have been interested recently in acquiring inexpensive land and dropping a manufactured home on top if it.

It might be out of the way, but at least I will own it and be able to escape this hellish rat race if the need should arise.[/quote]

I have visited. I wouldn’t live there.

[patientrenter]

[quote=paramount]I see California City as having great potential, at least for me.

I have been interested recently in acquiring inexpensive land and dropping a manufactured home on top if it.

It might be out of the way, but at least I will own it and be able to escape this hellish rat race if the need should arise.[/quote]

I have visited. I wouldn’t live there.

[patientrenter]

scaredycat, you speak the voice of wisdom (from the male POV, of course).

[patientrenter]

scaredycat, you speak the voice of wisdom (from the male POV, of course).

[patientrenter]

scaredycat, you speak the voice of wisdom (from the male POV, of course).

[patientrenter]

scaredycat, you speak the voice of wisdom (from the male POV, of course).

[patientrenter]

scaredycat, you speak the voice of wisdom (from the male POV, of course).

[patientrenter]

[quote=CA renter]…
One is a necessity (assuming we want the human race to propagate), the other is just about desire….[/quote]

Survival of the human race is a bit abstract. I don’t think most women have kids out of a sense of duty to keep the human species from going extinct. (Not that there’s any danger of that. Which other large mammals number over 5 billion?) They do it because they want it, just as the man “does it” because he wants it. I don’t see either as being superior or selfless, although both have consequences that involve (different) personal sacrifices.

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