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September 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276965September 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276982
patientrenter
ParticipantAll of us important and knowledgeable people (Hank Paulson, Bennie, Barney, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Nancy…) agree that there is no choice – if you want to have a productive, energetic, dynamic economy for yourselves and your children, you need to accept the only meal we have on the menu today: We start with an immediate large check from you to us. Then we move to the main course, which is the dispensing of all that money to the least responsible people during the last 5 years, the people who borrowed or lent large amounts of money to buy assets at twice their historical average prices or more. We want to make sure the prices stay high enough to allow vast numbers of people who bought assets with other people’s money to make out well, at the expense of those who saved. What’s for dessert? A surprise.
Dems and Republicans are enacting a little theater on the margins to distract the less bright amongst us. They are united in their primary purposes.
September 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #277016patientrenter
ParticipantAll of us important and knowledgeable people (Hank Paulson, Bennie, Barney, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Nancy…) agree that there is no choice – if you want to have a productive, energetic, dynamic economy for yourselves and your children, you need to accept the only meal we have on the menu today: We start with an immediate large check from you to us. Then we move to the main course, which is the dispensing of all that money to the least responsible people during the last 5 years, the people who borrowed or lent large amounts of money to buy assets at twice their historical average prices or more. We want to make sure the prices stay high enough to allow vast numbers of people who bought assets with other people’s money to make out well, at the expense of those who saved. What’s for dessert? A surprise.
Dems and Republicans are enacting a little theater on the margins to distract the less bright amongst us. They are united in their primary purposes.
September 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #277029patientrenter
ParticipantAll of us important and knowledgeable people (Hank Paulson, Bennie, Barney, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Nancy…) agree that there is no choice – if you want to have a productive, energetic, dynamic economy for yourselves and your children, you need to accept the only meal we have on the menu today: We start with an immediate large check from you to us. Then we move to the main course, which is the dispensing of all that money to the least responsible people during the last 5 years, the people who borrowed or lent large amounts of money to buy assets at twice their historical average prices or more. We want to make sure the prices stay high enough to allow vast numbers of people who bought assets with other people’s money to make out well, at the expense of those who saved. What’s for dessert? A surprise.
Dems and Republicans are enacting a little theater on the margins to distract the less bright amongst us. They are united in their primary purposes.
September 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM in reply to: Jim Rogers: NOT the end of the world, let em go bankrupt! #276468patientrenter
ParticipantMadeinT,
One of the recent govt actions was to create a backstop to support Money Market funds. Implementing that would free up the commercial paper markets, relieving the problem you describe.
For some strange reason, this MM backstop has not been implemented by Treasury. In the meanwhile, we are all made to feel the symptoms of a credit squeeze…. which makes you and many other members of the electorate anxious for a massive bailout. See some comments in the recent threads on the Calculated Risk blog for more on this.
I suspect that we are being stampeded into a bailout.
September 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM in reply to: Jim Rogers: NOT the end of the world, let em go bankrupt! #276724patientrenter
ParticipantMadeinT,
One of the recent govt actions was to create a backstop to support Money Market funds. Implementing that would free up the commercial paper markets, relieving the problem you describe.
For some strange reason, this MM backstop has not been implemented by Treasury. In the meanwhile, we are all made to feel the symptoms of a credit squeeze…. which makes you and many other members of the electorate anxious for a massive bailout. See some comments in the recent threads on the Calculated Risk blog for more on this.
I suspect that we are being stampeded into a bailout.
September 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM in reply to: Jim Rogers: NOT the end of the world, let em go bankrupt! #276742patientrenter
ParticipantMadeinT,
One of the recent govt actions was to create a backstop to support Money Market funds. Implementing that would free up the commercial paper markets, relieving the problem you describe.
For some strange reason, this MM backstop has not been implemented by Treasury. In the meanwhile, we are all made to feel the symptoms of a credit squeeze…. which makes you and many other members of the electorate anxious for a massive bailout. See some comments in the recent threads on the Calculated Risk blog for more on this.
I suspect that we are being stampeded into a bailout.
September 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM in reply to: Jim Rogers: NOT the end of the world, let em go bankrupt! #276776patientrenter
ParticipantMadeinT,
One of the recent govt actions was to create a backstop to support Money Market funds. Implementing that would free up the commercial paper markets, relieving the problem you describe.
For some strange reason, this MM backstop has not been implemented by Treasury. In the meanwhile, we are all made to feel the symptoms of a credit squeeze…. which makes you and many other members of the electorate anxious for a massive bailout. See some comments in the recent threads on the Calculated Risk blog for more on this.
I suspect that we are being stampeded into a bailout.
September 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM in reply to: Jim Rogers: NOT the end of the world, let em go bankrupt! #276790patientrenter
ParticipantMadeinT,
One of the recent govt actions was to create a backstop to support Money Market funds. Implementing that would free up the commercial paper markets, relieving the problem you describe.
For some strange reason, this MM backstop has not been implemented by Treasury. In the meanwhile, we are all made to feel the symptoms of a credit squeeze…. which makes you and many other members of the electorate anxious for a massive bailout. See some comments in the recent threads on the Calculated Risk blog for more on this.
I suspect that we are being stampeded into a bailout.
September 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Bailout Suggestions to Hanky Bernanke from a Banker #274083patientrenter
ParticipantThanks, Dave and others, for an intelligent conversation about the issue. I have one point to add: I think we should be moving as a country away from encouraging more investment in residential real estate. No more buyer incentive programs, no more deductibility of mortgage interest, no more govt guarantees for mortgage loans….
After a few years of shock, we will have an economy that is more productive, sustainable, and competitive. Any more gradual plan is, I’ve concluded, the alcholics plea for “just one more drink”.
September 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Bailout Suggestions to Hanky Bernanke from a Banker #274330patientrenter
ParticipantThanks, Dave and others, for an intelligent conversation about the issue. I have one point to add: I think we should be moving as a country away from encouraging more investment in residential real estate. No more buyer incentive programs, no more deductibility of mortgage interest, no more govt guarantees for mortgage loans….
After a few years of shock, we will have an economy that is more productive, sustainable, and competitive. Any more gradual plan is, I’ve concluded, the alcholics plea for “just one more drink”.
September 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Bailout Suggestions to Hanky Bernanke from a Banker #274336patientrenter
ParticipantThanks, Dave and others, for an intelligent conversation about the issue. I have one point to add: I think we should be moving as a country away from encouraging more investment in residential real estate. No more buyer incentive programs, no more deductibility of mortgage interest, no more govt guarantees for mortgage loans….
After a few years of shock, we will have an economy that is more productive, sustainable, and competitive. Any more gradual plan is, I’ve concluded, the alcholics plea for “just one more drink”.
September 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Bailout Suggestions to Hanky Bernanke from a Banker #274382patientrenter
ParticipantThanks, Dave and others, for an intelligent conversation about the issue. I have one point to add: I think we should be moving as a country away from encouraging more investment in residential real estate. No more buyer incentive programs, no more deductibility of mortgage interest, no more govt guarantees for mortgage loans….
After a few years of shock, we will have an economy that is more productive, sustainable, and competitive. Any more gradual plan is, I’ve concluded, the alcholics plea for “just one more drink”.
September 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Bailout Suggestions to Hanky Bernanke from a Banker #274404patientrenter
ParticipantThanks, Dave and others, for an intelligent conversation about the issue. I have one point to add: I think we should be moving as a country away from encouraging more investment in residential real estate. No more buyer incentive programs, no more deductibility of mortgage interest, no more govt guarantees for mortgage loans….
After a few years of shock, we will have an economy that is more productive, sustainable, and competitive. Any more gradual plan is, I’ve concluded, the alcholics plea for “just one more drink”.
patientrenter
ParticipantKev,
Thanks for calling New FNMA for your home purchase needs. You want to buy that $1.2 million house? What’s standing in your way? Downpayment? No problem, we have this new no-downpayment plan, the Paulson Put Plan. Next issue. Payments too high? No problem, we have a new low early payment plan, the Bernanke No Depression Ever Again Plan. We can layer them together for you.
What’s holding you back? If house prices go up, you win. If house prices go down, you don’t lose.
Of course house prices will be higher than they would otherwise be with this bailout plan and all the control it gives Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and Chuck Schumer and others. You already knew that.
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