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March 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Energy Independence? Good thing Feinstein is looking out for us. #374353March 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Energy Independence? Good thing Feinstein is looking out for us. #374525
patientrenter
ParticipantSD R, I have spent some time camping and hiking in the various California and Utah deserts. I have developed a regard for their beauty, for the public good represented by the natural state of these deserts, and for their fragility.
I agree that if we have to rely heavily on solar power, then we need to identify the areas where it makes the most sense. By that I mean generating the most power with the least transmission loss, for the least environmental and aesthetic damage.
I hope Feinstein’s bill doesn’t preclude that sort of rational analysis of any future decision on solar power. For years, we have had no new nuclear power plants. I often wonder if that was the result of a rational decision-making process, or the product of rank populism. I don’t know enough about Feinstein’s bill, or the overall political and planning process to judge, but I hope that somewhere amongst our leaders there are a few who can rise above pandering to narrow interest groups, and propose and push for coherent broad responses to our collective challenges. I suppose I am very naive!
Oh, and the most effective way by far to move from energy dependence on “people who don’t like us very much” is to increase taxes on all energy consumption provided by types of supply that we currently have to import a lot of – mainly oil. So increase taxes per unit of gasoline, home heating oil, jet fuel…. In Europe and Japan, consistent application of this policy over decades has led to economies that use much less power from oil per unit of GDP.
March 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Energy Independence? Good thing Feinstein is looking out for us. #374569patientrenter
ParticipantSD R, I have spent some time camping and hiking in the various California and Utah deserts. I have developed a regard for their beauty, for the public good represented by the natural state of these deserts, and for their fragility.
I agree that if we have to rely heavily on solar power, then we need to identify the areas where it makes the most sense. By that I mean generating the most power with the least transmission loss, for the least environmental and aesthetic damage.
I hope Feinstein’s bill doesn’t preclude that sort of rational analysis of any future decision on solar power. For years, we have had no new nuclear power plants. I often wonder if that was the result of a rational decision-making process, or the product of rank populism. I don’t know enough about Feinstein’s bill, or the overall political and planning process to judge, but I hope that somewhere amongst our leaders there are a few who can rise above pandering to narrow interest groups, and propose and push for coherent broad responses to our collective challenges. I suppose I am very naive!
Oh, and the most effective way by far to move from energy dependence on “people who don’t like us very much” is to increase taxes on all energy consumption provided by types of supply that we currently have to import a lot of – mainly oil. So increase taxes per unit of gasoline, home heating oil, jet fuel…. In Europe and Japan, consistent application of this policy over decades has led to economies that use much less power from oil per unit of GDP.
March 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Energy Independence? Good thing Feinstein is looking out for us. #374688patientrenter
ParticipantSD R, I have spent some time camping and hiking in the various California and Utah deserts. I have developed a regard for their beauty, for the public good represented by the natural state of these deserts, and for their fragility.
I agree that if we have to rely heavily on solar power, then we need to identify the areas where it makes the most sense. By that I mean generating the most power with the least transmission loss, for the least environmental and aesthetic damage.
I hope Feinstein’s bill doesn’t preclude that sort of rational analysis of any future decision on solar power. For years, we have had no new nuclear power plants. I often wonder if that was the result of a rational decision-making process, or the product of rank populism. I don’t know enough about Feinstein’s bill, or the overall political and planning process to judge, but I hope that somewhere amongst our leaders there are a few who can rise above pandering to narrow interest groups, and propose and push for coherent broad responses to our collective challenges. I suppose I am very naive!
Oh, and the most effective way by far to move from energy dependence on “people who don’t like us very much” is to increase taxes on all energy consumption provided by types of supply that we currently have to import a lot of – mainly oil. So increase taxes per unit of gasoline, home heating oil, jet fuel…. In Europe and Japan, consistent application of this policy over decades has led to economies that use much less power from oil per unit of GDP.
patientrenter
ParticipantAldante, I guarantee you that Barney Frank, and a few hundred of his best friends in Congress, know a lot more about what the Fed is doing than you (or I) do. And I do know something about what the Fed does, and so could you with a little effort.
Do as you wish, but I think your mental wellbeing would be improved if you didn’t see the world as being run from behind the scenes by a few evil conspirators. Paranoia is not good for your health.
Best wishes
patientrenter
ParticipantAldante, I guarantee you that Barney Frank, and a few hundred of his best friends in Congress, know a lot more about what the Fed is doing than you (or I) do. And I do know something about what the Fed does, and so could you with a little effort.
Do as you wish, but I think your mental wellbeing would be improved if you didn’t see the world as being run from behind the scenes by a few evil conspirators. Paranoia is not good for your health.
Best wishes
patientrenter
ParticipantAldante, I guarantee you that Barney Frank, and a few hundred of his best friends in Congress, know a lot more about what the Fed is doing than you (or I) do. And I do know something about what the Fed does, and so could you with a little effort.
Do as you wish, but I think your mental wellbeing would be improved if you didn’t see the world as being run from behind the scenes by a few evil conspirators. Paranoia is not good for your health.
Best wishes
patientrenter
ParticipantAldante, I guarantee you that Barney Frank, and a few hundred of his best friends in Congress, know a lot more about what the Fed is doing than you (or I) do. And I do know something about what the Fed does, and so could you with a little effort.
Do as you wish, but I think your mental wellbeing would be improved if you didn’t see the world as being run from behind the scenes by a few evil conspirators. Paranoia is not good for your health.
Best wishes
patientrenter
ParticipantAldante, I guarantee you that Barney Frank, and a few hundred of his best friends in Congress, know a lot more about what the Fed is doing than you (or I) do. And I do know something about what the Fed does, and so could you with a little effort.
Do as you wish, but I think your mental wellbeing would be improved if you didn’t see the world as being run from behind the scenes by a few evil conspirators. Paranoia is not good for your health.
Best wishes
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll leave this alone after this comment, since there are obviously a few folks who want to believe that we got here because of a few conspirators in the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.
I’d love for a group of completely objective journalists, not beholden to any political point of view, to focus on the people who were most responsible for blowing air into the asset bubble, but I think lots of posters here would be disappointed to find how many of “their people” were responsible.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll leave this alone after this comment, since there are obviously a few folks who want to believe that we got here because of a few conspirators in the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.
I’d love for a group of completely objective journalists, not beholden to any political point of view, to focus on the people who were most responsible for blowing air into the asset bubble, but I think lots of posters here would be disappointed to find how many of “their people” were responsible.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll leave this alone after this comment, since there are obviously a few folks who want to believe that we got here because of a few conspirators in the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.
I’d love for a group of completely objective journalists, not beholden to any political point of view, to focus on the people who were most responsible for blowing air into the asset bubble, but I think lots of posters here would be disappointed to find how many of “their people” were responsible.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll leave this alone after this comment, since there are obviously a few folks who want to believe that we got here because of a few conspirators in the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.
I’d love for a group of completely objective journalists, not beholden to any political point of view, to focus on the people who were most responsible for blowing air into the asset bubble, but I think lots of posters here would be disappointed to find how many of “their people” were responsible.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll leave this alone after this comment, since there are obviously a few folks who want to believe that we got here because of a few conspirators in the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.
I’d love for a group of completely objective journalists, not beholden to any political point of view, to focus on the people who were most responsible for blowing air into the asset bubble, but I think lots of posters here would be disappointed to find how many of “their people” were responsible.
patientrenter
ParticipantIf you think Barney Frank is not fully informed of what the Fed does (only the parts he wants to know), then I have a bridge to sell you, for a very attractive price. Cash in advance, please!
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