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May 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406125May 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406367
patientrenter
ParticipantWell, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.
But:
1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
2. There should be a strict limit on all public school spending on items other than teachers’ pay. Get rid of most of the school district employees, and counselors, and other overhead. If you don’t like that, then pay your own d*^& money to send your kids to a school with all the overhead.
3. Teachers should generally get more pay, and be subject to tough student-based performance standards that eliminate 5% or so of all teachers from the profession per year for lack of suitability/capability. In other words, make teaching a higher status/pay profession than it is, with performance requirements to match.
4. Add the forces of real competition to teaching, allowing schools not run by the local govt to set up shop if they can produce better results for the same cost or less.
I know, none of this will happen, but I feel better now.
May 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406428patientrenter
ParticipantWell, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.
But:
1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
2. There should be a strict limit on all public school spending on items other than teachers’ pay. Get rid of most of the school district employees, and counselors, and other overhead. If you don’t like that, then pay your own d*^& money to send your kids to a school with all the overhead.
3. Teachers should generally get more pay, and be subject to tough student-based performance standards that eliminate 5% or so of all teachers from the profession per year for lack of suitability/capability. In other words, make teaching a higher status/pay profession than it is, with performance requirements to match.
4. Add the forces of real competition to teaching, allowing schools not run by the local govt to set up shop if they can produce better results for the same cost or less.
I know, none of this will happen, but I feel better now.
May 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406577patientrenter
ParticipantWell, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.
But:
1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
2. There should be a strict limit on all public school spending on items other than teachers’ pay. Get rid of most of the school district employees, and counselors, and other overhead. If you don’t like that, then pay your own d*^& money to send your kids to a school with all the overhead.
3. Teachers should generally get more pay, and be subject to tough student-based performance standards that eliminate 5% or so of all teachers from the profession per year for lack of suitability/capability. In other words, make teaching a higher status/pay profession than it is, with performance requirements to match.
4. Add the forces of real competition to teaching, allowing schools not run by the local govt to set up shop if they can produce better results for the same cost or less.
I know, none of this will happen, but I feel better now.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll bump this thread. We’re always complaining about MSM not “getting it”. You can’t get much more mainstream than AP, so here’s our chance to do a little bit to fix that… or just complain.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll bump this thread. We’re always complaining about MSM not “getting it”. You can’t get much more mainstream than AP, so here’s our chance to do a little bit to fix that… or just complain.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll bump this thread. We’re always complaining about MSM not “getting it”. You can’t get much more mainstream than AP, so here’s our chance to do a little bit to fix that… or just complain.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll bump this thread. We’re always complaining about MSM not “getting it”. You can’t get much more mainstream than AP, so here’s our chance to do a little bit to fix that… or just complain.
patientrenter
ParticipantI’ll bump this thread. We’re always complaining about MSM not “getting it”. You can’t get much more mainstream than AP, so here’s our chance to do a little bit to fix that… or just complain.
patientrenter
ParticipantSend your check directly to me. I guarantee 12% returns. (Don’t ask who will get those returns.)
No one really knows where to invest for good returns. My personal feeling is that countries in Asia will do well if they are tied to the rise of China and the other Asian motor economies. But it’s a real challenge to go from an economy to specific investments that will do well.
patientrenter
ParticipantSend your check directly to me. I guarantee 12% returns. (Don’t ask who will get those returns.)
No one really knows where to invest for good returns. My personal feeling is that countries in Asia will do well if they are tied to the rise of China and the other Asian motor economies. But it’s a real challenge to go from an economy to specific investments that will do well.
patientrenter
ParticipantSend your check directly to me. I guarantee 12% returns. (Don’t ask who will get those returns.)
No one really knows where to invest for good returns. My personal feeling is that countries in Asia will do well if they are tied to the rise of China and the other Asian motor economies. But it’s a real challenge to go from an economy to specific investments that will do well.
patientrenter
ParticipantSend your check directly to me. I guarantee 12% returns. (Don’t ask who will get those returns.)
No one really knows where to invest for good returns. My personal feeling is that countries in Asia will do well if they are tied to the rise of China and the other Asian motor economies. But it’s a real challenge to go from an economy to specific investments that will do well.
patientrenter
ParticipantSend your check directly to me. I guarantee 12% returns. (Don’t ask who will get those returns.)
No one really knows where to invest for good returns. My personal feeling is that countries in Asia will do well if they are tied to the rise of China and the other Asian motor economies. But it’s a real challenge to go from an economy to specific investments that will do well.
patientrenter
Participant[quote=socalarm]locate someone with a french accent and beat them with a stick.[/quote]
I vote for this. Lol! Thanks, socalarm.
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