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“For those of you who are so inclined. Look at the Mayan prophecies about 2012 and look at information pertaining to the ascension of Earth and the ascension (or re-ascension as it truly is) of the Earthlings. Stay away from the fear based stuff. Meaning, do not let the information send you into fear.
We have such an opportunity to shift into a higher way of being now.”

Enorah, I completely agree with you. However, I think it is our leaders who are acting out of fear. I have been following the 2012 theme and am beginning to suspect that leaders of our country and others are acutely aware that our planet is about to enter a rare cycle (occurring once every 26,000 years) in which our solar system journeys to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, at the core of which is a black hole. The last time this celestial event occurred, mankind had not yet graced this planet. In other words, we have no idea what we are about to experience, but I think there is good reason to believe that a journey to a point near a black hole could have potentially catastrophic consequences and cause significant planetary disruption, i.e. earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary volcanic activity, extreme climate change, etc.

I think it is at least worth considering that world governments, anticipating such events, would feel the need to *manage* the crisis and rapidly-diminishing resources (such as food and water) by controlling the world’s population. The first step would be to restrict liberties. This has already begun in the U.S., courtesy of the Patriot Act. Most other countries already have drastic restrictions in liberties. The next step would be to control the means of production and distribution. This is in progress now as the global financial system careens towards collapse. Once the population — heavily in debt and dependent on the *system* — is deprived of paper assets, employment, wealth and the means to sustain itself, it will be much easier to control. Essentially, hungry and desperate people will do anything they are told to do, as long as they are fed and *secure*.

I’m not sure what the end game is, but I would suspect that the Powers that Be believe that this course of action is *necessary* to ensure the controlled survival of at least some portion of mankind, probably the youngest and healthiest (although not necessarily the most intelligent, as they are more difficult to control), i.e. those most useful to them. I don’t think that they mind seeing a good chunk of the rest of the world’s population disappear.

I believe the Mayan-2012 Event (also embraced by the ancient Sumerians) very much frightens the Powers That Be, as it threatens to overturn thousands of years of power that they have systematically held over the world’s population. Events could easily spiral out of their control. The world’s population could rise up against them. It’s a dangerous game they play. And for that reason, I actually welcome the Event as I believe that it is an opportunity for mankind to shed all of the bulls***, the trappings of the material world that has divided us all, the racism and sexism that has been used to oppress us, and the love of money that has been used to subjugate and destroy us. I see 2012 as an opportunity to re-boot mankind and start fresh. Not all of us are going to make it, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a problem. Change never comes without pain. Those who follow us will be much better off in the long run. Post-2012, I think we are going to be looking at a radically different Earth: one with more challenges, to be sure, but one that gives mankind a freedom that it hasn’t experienced for thousands of years.

Just food for thought as we move forward through these unprecedented times…

[partypup]

“For those of you who are so inclined. Look at the Mayan prophecies about 2012 and look at information pertaining to the ascension of Earth and the ascension (or re-ascension as it truly is) of the Earthlings. Stay away from the fear based stuff. Meaning, do not let the information send you into fear.
We have such an opportunity to shift into a higher way of being now.”

Enorah, I completely agree with you. However, I think it is our leaders who are acting out of fear. I have been following the 2012 theme and am beginning to suspect that leaders of our country and others are acutely aware that our planet is about to enter a rare cycle (occurring once every 26,000 years) in which our solar system journeys to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, at the core of which is a black hole. The last time this celestial event occurred, mankind had not yet graced this planet. In other words, we have no idea what we are about to experience, but I think there is good reason to believe that a journey to a point near a black hole could have potentially catastrophic consequences and cause significant planetary disruption, i.e. earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary volcanic activity, extreme climate change, etc.

I think it is at least worth considering that world governments, anticipating such events, would feel the need to *manage* the crisis and rapidly-diminishing resources (such as food and water) by controlling the world’s population. The first step would be to restrict liberties. This has already begun in the U.S., courtesy of the Patriot Act. Most other countries already have drastic restrictions in liberties. The next step would be to control the means of production and distribution. This is in progress now as the global financial system careens towards collapse. Once the population — heavily in debt and dependent on the *system* — is deprived of paper assets, employment, wealth and the means to sustain itself, it will be much easier to control. Essentially, hungry and desperate people will do anything they are told to do, as long as they are fed and *secure*.

I’m not sure what the end game is, but I would suspect that the Powers that Be believe that this course of action is *necessary* to ensure the controlled survival of at least some portion of mankind, probably the youngest and healthiest (although not necessarily the most intelligent, as they are more difficult to control), i.e. those most useful to them. I don’t think that they mind seeing a good chunk of the rest of the world’s population disappear.

I believe the Mayan-2012 Event (also embraced by the ancient Sumerians) very much frightens the Powers That Be, as it threatens to overturn thousands of years of power that they have systematically held over the world’s population. Events could easily spiral out of their control. The world’s population could rise up against them. It’s a dangerous game they play. And for that reason, I actually welcome the Event as I believe that it is an opportunity for mankind to shed all of the bulls***, the trappings of the material world that has divided us all, the racism and sexism that has been used to oppress us, and the love of money that has been used to subjugate and destroy us. I see 2012 as an opportunity to re-boot mankind and start fresh. Not all of us are going to make it, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a problem. Change never comes without pain. Those who follow us will be much better off in the long run. Post-2012, I think we are going to be looking at a radically different Earth: one with more challenges, to be sure, but one that gives mankind a freedom that it hasn’t experienced for thousands of years.

Just food for thought as we move forward through these unprecedented times…

[partypup]

“For those of you who are so inclined. Look at the Mayan prophecies about 2012 and look at information pertaining to the ascension of Earth and the ascension (or re-ascension as it truly is) of the Earthlings. Stay away from the fear based stuff. Meaning, do not let the information send you into fear.
We have such an opportunity to shift into a higher way of being now.”

Enorah, I completely agree with you. However, I think it is our leaders who are acting out of fear. I have been following the 2012 theme and am beginning to suspect that leaders of our country and others are acutely aware that our planet is about to enter a rare cycle (occurring once every 26,000 years) in which our solar system journeys to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, at the core of which is a black hole. The last time this celestial event occurred, mankind had not yet graced this planet. In other words, we have no idea what we are about to experience, but I think there is good reason to believe that a journey to a point near a black hole could have potentially catastrophic consequences and cause significant planetary disruption, i.e. earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary volcanic activity, extreme climate change, etc.

I think it is at least worth considering that world governments, anticipating such events, would feel the need to *manage* the crisis and rapidly-diminishing resources (such as food and water) by controlling the world’s population. The first step would be to restrict liberties. This has already begun in the U.S., courtesy of the Patriot Act. Most other countries already have drastic restrictions in liberties. The next step would be to control the means of production and distribution. This is in progress now as the global financial system careens towards collapse. Once the population — heavily in debt and dependent on the *system* — is deprived of paper assets, employment, wealth and the means to sustain itself, it will be much easier to control. Essentially, hungry and desperate people will do anything they are told to do, as long as they are fed and *secure*.

I’m not sure what the end game is, but I would suspect that the Powers that Be believe that this course of action is *necessary* to ensure the controlled survival of at least some portion of mankind, probably the youngest and healthiest (although not necessarily the most intelligent, as they are more difficult to control), i.e. those most useful to them. I don’t think that they mind seeing a good chunk of the rest of the world’s population disappear.

I believe the Mayan-2012 Event (also embraced by the ancient Sumerians) very much frightens the Powers That Be, as it threatens to overturn thousands of years of power that they have systematically held over the world’s population. Events could easily spiral out of their control. The world’s population could rise up against them. It’s a dangerous game they play. And for that reason, I actually welcome the Event as I believe that it is an opportunity for mankind to shed all of the bulls***, the trappings of the material world that has divided us all, the racism and sexism that has been used to oppress us, and the love of money that has been used to subjugate and destroy us. I see 2012 as an opportunity to re-boot mankind and start fresh. Not all of us are going to make it, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a problem. Change never comes without pain. Those who follow us will be much better off in the long run. Post-2012, I think we are going to be looking at a radically different Earth: one with more challenges, to be sure, but one that gives mankind a freedom that it hasn’t experienced for thousands of years.

Just food for thought as we move forward through these unprecedented times…

[partypup]

“For those of you who are so inclined. Look at the Mayan prophecies about 2012 and look at information pertaining to the ascension of Earth and the ascension (or re-ascension as it truly is) of the Earthlings. Stay away from the fear based stuff. Meaning, do not let the information send you into fear.
We have such an opportunity to shift into a higher way of being now.”

Enorah, I completely agree with you. However, I think it is our leaders who are acting out of fear. I have been following the 2012 theme and am beginning to suspect that leaders of our country and others are acutely aware that our planet is about to enter a rare cycle (occurring once every 26,000 years) in which our solar system journeys to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, at the core of which is a black hole. The last time this celestial event occurred, mankind had not yet graced this planet. In other words, we have no idea what we are about to experience, but I think there is good reason to believe that a journey to a point near a black hole could have potentially catastrophic consequences and cause significant planetary disruption, i.e. earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary volcanic activity, extreme climate change, etc.

I think it is at least worth considering that world governments, anticipating such events, would feel the need to *manage* the crisis and rapidly-diminishing resources (such as food and water) by controlling the world’s population. The first step would be to restrict liberties. This has already begun in the U.S., courtesy of the Patriot Act. Most other countries already have drastic restrictions in liberties. The next step would be to control the means of production and distribution. This is in progress now as the global financial system careens towards collapse. Once the population — heavily in debt and dependent on the *system* — is deprived of paper assets, employment, wealth and the means to sustain itself, it will be much easier to control. Essentially, hungry and desperate people will do anything they are told to do, as long as they are fed and *secure*.

I’m not sure what the end game is, but I would suspect that the Powers that Be believe that this course of action is *necessary* to ensure the controlled survival of at least some portion of mankind, probably the youngest and healthiest (although not necessarily the most intelligent, as they are more difficult to control), i.e. those most useful to them. I don’t think that they mind seeing a good chunk of the rest of the world’s population disappear.

I believe the Mayan-2012 Event (also embraced by the ancient Sumerians) very much frightens the Powers That Be, as it threatens to overturn thousands of years of power that they have systematically held over the world’s population. Events could easily spiral out of their control. The world’s population could rise up against them. It’s a dangerous game they play. And for that reason, I actually welcome the Event as I believe that it is an opportunity for mankind to shed all of the bulls***, the trappings of the material world that has divided us all, the racism and sexism that has been used to oppress us, and the love of money that has been used to subjugate and destroy us. I see 2012 as an opportunity to re-boot mankind and start fresh. Not all of us are going to make it, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a problem. Change never comes without pain. Those who follow us will be much better off in the long run. Post-2012, I think we are going to be looking at a radically different Earth: one with more challenges, to be sure, but one that gives mankind a freedom that it hasn’t experienced for thousands of years.

Just food for thought as we move forward through these unprecedented times…

[partypup]

“For those of you who are so inclined. Look at the Mayan prophecies about 2012 and look at information pertaining to the ascension of Earth and the ascension (or re-ascension as it truly is) of the Earthlings. Stay away from the fear based stuff. Meaning, do not let the information send you into fear.
We have such an opportunity to shift into a higher way of being now.”

Enorah, I completely agree with you. However, I think it is our leaders who are acting out of fear. I have been following the 2012 theme and am beginning to suspect that leaders of our country and others are acutely aware that our planet is about to enter a rare cycle (occurring once every 26,000 years) in which our solar system journeys to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, at the core of which is a black hole. The last time this celestial event occurred, mankind had not yet graced this planet. In other words, we have no idea what we are about to experience, but I think there is good reason to believe that a journey to a point near a black hole could have potentially catastrophic consequences and cause significant planetary disruption, i.e. earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary volcanic activity, extreme climate change, etc.

I think it is at least worth considering that world governments, anticipating such events, would feel the need to *manage* the crisis and rapidly-diminishing resources (such as food and water) by controlling the world’s population. The first step would be to restrict liberties. This has already begun in the U.S., courtesy of the Patriot Act. Most other countries already have drastic restrictions in liberties. The next step would be to control the means of production and distribution. This is in progress now as the global financial system careens towards collapse. Once the population — heavily in debt and dependent on the *system* — is deprived of paper assets, employment, wealth and the means to sustain itself, it will be much easier to control. Essentially, hungry and desperate people will do anything they are told to do, as long as they are fed and *secure*.

I’m not sure what the end game is, but I would suspect that the Powers that Be believe that this course of action is *necessary* to ensure the controlled survival of at least some portion of mankind, probably the youngest and healthiest (although not necessarily the most intelligent, as they are more difficult to control), i.e. those most useful to them. I don’t think that they mind seeing a good chunk of the rest of the world’s population disappear.

I believe the Mayan-2012 Event (also embraced by the ancient Sumerians) very much frightens the Powers That Be, as it threatens to overturn thousands of years of power that they have systematically held over the world’s population. Events could easily spiral out of their control. The world’s population could rise up against them. It’s a dangerous game they play. And for that reason, I actually welcome the Event as I believe that it is an opportunity for mankind to shed all of the bulls***, the trappings of the material world that has divided us all, the racism and sexism that has been used to oppress us, and the love of money that has been used to subjugate and destroy us. I see 2012 as an opportunity to re-boot mankind and start fresh. Not all of us are going to make it, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a problem. Change never comes without pain. Those who follow us will be much better off in the long run. Post-2012, I think we are going to be looking at a radically different Earth: one with more challenges, to be sure, but one that gives mankind a freedom that it hasn’t experienced for thousands of years.

Just food for thought as we move forward through these unprecedented times…

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“In other words, if the trillions of dollars floating around the world are suddenly dumped by foreigners and traded into Euros/Gold/RMB/Swiss Francs….then WHAT CAN the Fed do to prevent the collapse of the dollar?
It seems to be that in that scenario, the value of the dollar would collapse. What am I missing?”

Exactly. You’re not missing anything. That scenario is entirely plausible. How likely it is, we just don’t know. But it’s certainly possible.

Guys, I think what’s important to keep in mind is that we are in UNCHARTED TERRITORY now. Our recent (and distant) history no longer apply. The “rules” no longer apply. So it is virtually impossible to scoff at any scenario under these circumstances. As we move forward in the days and weeks ahead, we will almost certainly become roadkill if we act based upon our prior experiences and the rules we have observed for most of our lives. I think a Black Swan moment is at hand, and new rules for a new world are about to be laid down.

CA Renter, I wholeheartedly subscribe to your mother’s philosophy: bad things happen very quickly — or at least, too quickly for most to act in order to avoid the unfortunate consequences.

On a side note, I read something very interesting today by Jim Cramer, of all people, that tapped into something I’ve been gnawing on for months now. Can it really be the case that so many *intelligent*, *skilled* and experienced professionals in our government did not see the tsunami that was brewing in the unregulated world of derivatives and mortgage backed securities? I acknowledge that greed and political expediency can compel men (to do horrible things, but if I were a prosecutor I think a strong case could be made that the stewards who were placed in charge of our government to guide and protect the citizenry acted with extreme recklessness bordering on…intent to harm.

I don’t know if there are forces at work that are intent on destroying our financial system. But I am almost certain that destruction is unavoidable at this point.

Cramer: Feels like Financial Terrorism to Me

“It almost feels like financial terrorism. It feels like we are in a moment where there are institutions that are willing the destruction of our banks, institutions that want the nation’s financial system to fail.”

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10438230/1/cramer-feels-like-financial-terrorism.html?puc=newshome

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“In other words, if the trillions of dollars floating around the world are suddenly dumped by foreigners and traded into Euros/Gold/RMB/Swiss Francs….then WHAT CAN the Fed do to prevent the collapse of the dollar?
It seems to be that in that scenario, the value of the dollar would collapse. What am I missing?”

Exactly. You’re not missing anything. That scenario is entirely plausible. How likely it is, we just don’t know. But it’s certainly possible.

Guys, I think what’s important to keep in mind is that we are in UNCHARTED TERRITORY now. Our recent (and distant) history no longer apply. The “rules” no longer apply. So it is virtually impossible to scoff at any scenario under these circumstances. As we move forward in the days and weeks ahead, we will almost certainly become roadkill if we act based upon our prior experiences and the rules we have observed for most of our lives. I think a Black Swan moment is at hand, and new rules for a new world are about to be laid down.

CA Renter, I wholeheartedly subscribe to your mother’s philosophy: bad things happen very quickly — or at least, too quickly for most to act in order to avoid the unfortunate consequences.

On a side note, I read something very interesting today by Jim Cramer, of all people, that tapped into something I’ve been gnawing on for months now. Can it really be the case that so many *intelligent*, *skilled* and experienced professionals in our government did not see the tsunami that was brewing in the unregulated world of derivatives and mortgage backed securities? I acknowledge that greed and political expediency can compel men (to do horrible things, but if I were a prosecutor I think a strong case could be made that the stewards who were placed in charge of our government to guide and protect the citizenry acted with extreme recklessness bordering on…intent to harm.

I don’t know if there are forces at work that are intent on destroying our financial system. But I am almost certain that destruction is unavoidable at this point.

Cramer: Feels like Financial Terrorism to Me

“It almost feels like financial terrorism. It feels like we are in a moment where there are institutions that are willing the destruction of our banks, institutions that want the nation’s financial system to fail.”

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10438230/1/cramer-feels-like-financial-terrorism.html?puc=newshome

[partypup]

“In other words, if the trillions of dollars floating around the world are suddenly dumped by foreigners and traded into Euros/Gold/RMB/Swiss Francs….then WHAT CAN the Fed do to prevent the collapse of the dollar?
It seems to be that in that scenario, the value of the dollar would collapse. What am I missing?”

Exactly. You’re not missing anything. That scenario is entirely plausible. How likely it is, we just don’t know. But it’s certainly possible.

Guys, I think what’s important to keep in mind is that we are in UNCHARTED TERRITORY now. Our recent (and distant) history no longer apply. The “rules” no longer apply. So it is virtually impossible to scoff at any scenario under these circumstances. As we move forward in the days and weeks ahead, we will almost certainly become roadkill if we act based upon our prior experiences and the rules we have observed for most of our lives. I think a Black Swan moment is at hand, and new rules for a new world are about to be laid down.

CA Renter, I wholeheartedly subscribe to your mother’s philosophy: bad things happen very quickly — or at least, too quickly for most to act in order to avoid the unfortunate consequences.

On a side note, I read something very interesting today by Jim Cramer, of all people, that tapped into something I’ve been gnawing on for months now. Can it really be the case that so many *intelligent*, *skilled* and experienced professionals in our government did not see the tsunami that was brewing in the unregulated world of derivatives and mortgage backed securities? I acknowledge that greed and political expediency can compel men (to do horrible things, but if I were a prosecutor I think a strong case could be made that the stewards who were placed in charge of our government to guide and protect the citizenry acted with extreme recklessness bordering on…intent to harm.

I don’t know if there are forces at work that are intent on destroying our financial system. But I am almost certain that destruction is unavoidable at this point.

Cramer: Feels like Financial Terrorism to Me

“It almost feels like financial terrorism. It feels like we are in a moment where there are institutions that are willing the destruction of our banks, institutions that want the nation’s financial system to fail.”

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10438230/1/cramer-feels-like-financial-terrorism.html?puc=newshome

[partypup]

“In other words, if the trillions of dollars floating around the world are suddenly dumped by foreigners and traded into Euros/Gold/RMB/Swiss Francs….then WHAT CAN the Fed do to prevent the collapse of the dollar?
It seems to be that in that scenario, the value of the dollar would collapse. What am I missing?”

Exactly. You’re not missing anything. That scenario is entirely plausible. How likely it is, we just don’t know. But it’s certainly possible.

Guys, I think what’s important to keep in mind is that we are in UNCHARTED TERRITORY now. Our recent (and distant) history no longer apply. The “rules” no longer apply. So it is virtually impossible to scoff at any scenario under these circumstances. As we move forward in the days and weeks ahead, we will almost certainly become roadkill if we act based upon our prior experiences and the rules we have observed for most of our lives. I think a Black Swan moment is at hand, and new rules for a new world are about to be laid down.

CA Renter, I wholeheartedly subscribe to your mother’s philosophy: bad things happen very quickly — or at least, too quickly for most to act in order to avoid the unfortunate consequences.

On a side note, I read something very interesting today by Jim Cramer, of all people, that tapped into something I’ve been gnawing on for months now. Can it really be the case that so many *intelligent*, *skilled* and experienced professionals in our government did not see the tsunami that was brewing in the unregulated world of derivatives and mortgage backed securities? I acknowledge that greed and political expediency can compel men (to do horrible things, but if I were a prosecutor I think a strong case could be made that the stewards who were placed in charge of our government to guide and protect the citizenry acted with extreme recklessness bordering on…intent to harm.

I don’t know if there are forces at work that are intent on destroying our financial system. But I am almost certain that destruction is unavoidable at this point.

Cramer: Feels like Financial Terrorism to Me

“It almost feels like financial terrorism. It feels like we are in a moment where there are institutions that are willing the destruction of our banks, institutions that want the nation’s financial system to fail.”

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10438230/1/cramer-feels-like-financial-terrorism.html?puc=newshome

[partypup]

“In other words, if the trillions of dollars floating around the world are suddenly dumped by foreigners and traded into Euros/Gold/RMB/Swiss Francs….then WHAT CAN the Fed do to prevent the collapse of the dollar?
It seems to be that in that scenario, the value of the dollar would collapse. What am I missing?”

Exactly. You’re not missing anything. That scenario is entirely plausible. How likely it is, we just don’t know. But it’s certainly possible.

Guys, I think what’s important to keep in mind is that we are in UNCHARTED TERRITORY now. Our recent (and distant) history no longer apply. The “rules” no longer apply. So it is virtually impossible to scoff at any scenario under these circumstances. As we move forward in the days and weeks ahead, we will almost certainly become roadkill if we act based upon our prior experiences and the rules we have observed for most of our lives. I think a Black Swan moment is at hand, and new rules for a new world are about to be laid down.

CA Renter, I wholeheartedly subscribe to your mother’s philosophy: bad things happen very quickly — or at least, too quickly for most to act in order to avoid the unfortunate consequences.

On a side note, I read something very interesting today by Jim Cramer, of all people, that tapped into something I’ve been gnawing on for months now. Can it really be the case that so many *intelligent*, *skilled* and experienced professionals in our government did not see the tsunami that was brewing in the unregulated world of derivatives and mortgage backed securities? I acknowledge that greed and political expediency can compel men (to do horrible things, but if I were a prosecutor I think a strong case could be made that the stewards who were placed in charge of our government to guide and protect the citizenry acted with extreme recklessness bordering on…intent to harm.

I don’t know if there are forces at work that are intent on destroying our financial system. But I am almost certain that destruction is unavoidable at this point.

Cramer: Feels like Financial Terrorism to Me

“It almost feels like financial terrorism. It feels like we are in a moment where there are institutions that are willing the destruction of our banks, institutions that want the nation’s financial system to fail.”

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10438230/1/cramer-feels-like-financial-terrorism.html?puc=newshome

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“Half the thread’s original post was reasonable doomsday scenario, which we should prepare for. The other half of the post was paranoid delusions.

When posting you should really censor out the alarmist fantasy garbage, then people will have more respect for the remaining, more rational content of your post.

I’m amused how you think use of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency will “cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009″ – AS IF on cue the millions of existing dollar holders (including countless nations’ foreign reserves) will all dump their dollars in the 2nd quarter of ’09.”

Stockstradr, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you read all of my post, I only asked that you not denigrate my opinion. Clearly you are incapable of doing that. So be it.

In any event, while we are “amusing” ourselves, I am entertained by your distinction between “reasonable doomsday scenarios” and “paranoid delusions”. I’m curious as to how you distinguish the two. What information in my original post was part of a “reasonable doomsday scenario” and what was “paranoid delusion”? Do you realize how…well, strange that sounds?

Where is the “fantasy garbage”? Please be specific in your response.

Is it unreasonable to acquire a food and supply buffer in anticipation of a systemic breakdown? Or should just eat and drink the gold in our portfolio? Why on earth do you even HAVE gold if you think the scenario I laid out was “delusional”?

Or perhaps it is the 2nd quarter 2009 timeframe that is “delusional”? It seems to me that when virtually all of the independent brokerages on Wall Street have disappeared in less than a year, the housing market is in free fall and the markets are gyrating 300-400 points in some sessions, we are no longer in a place where it is clear what is rational and what is “delusional”. And by the way, nowhere in my post did I indicate that all dollar holders would “on cue” dump all of their dollars on a particular date. So please drop the sarcasm and think more clearly for a moment. I merely surmised that the process of dollar dumping would begin now (the story in the People’s Daily yesterday clearly got the attention of major investors and was commented on several times on the financial news channels), continue over the next 8 months and possibly culminate next Spring. I’m frankly baffled as to why you would take that to mean that there is a *magic* date in 2009 on which investors would hold hands and sell their dollars.

Having said that, stocktradr, since 75% of your portfolio is in gold — as is mine — I must conclude that you are just as “delusional” as I am. Welcome to the world of the whackos. Sit down, pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

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“Half the thread’s original post was reasonable doomsday scenario, which we should prepare for. The other half of the post was paranoid delusions.

When posting you should really censor out the alarmist fantasy garbage, then people will have more respect for the remaining, more rational content of your post.

I’m amused how you think use of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency will “cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009″ – AS IF on cue the millions of existing dollar holders (including countless nations’ foreign reserves) will all dump their dollars in the 2nd quarter of ’09.”

Stockstradr, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you read all of my post, I only asked that you not denigrate my opinion. Clearly you are incapable of doing that. So be it.

In any event, while we are “amusing” ourselves, I am entertained by your distinction between “reasonable doomsday scenarios” and “paranoid delusions”. I’m curious as to how you distinguish the two. What information in my original post was part of a “reasonable doomsday scenario” and what was “paranoid delusion”? Do you realize how…well, strange that sounds?

Where is the “fantasy garbage”? Please be specific in your response.

Is it unreasonable to acquire a food and supply buffer in anticipation of a systemic breakdown? Or should just eat and drink the gold in our portfolio? Why on earth do you even HAVE gold if you think the scenario I laid out was “delusional”?

Or perhaps it is the 2nd quarter 2009 timeframe that is “delusional”? It seems to me that when virtually all of the independent brokerages on Wall Street have disappeared in less than a year, the housing market is in free fall and the markets are gyrating 300-400 points in some sessions, we are no longer in a place where it is clear what is rational and what is “delusional”. And by the way, nowhere in my post did I indicate that all dollar holders would “on cue” dump all of their dollars on a particular date. So please drop the sarcasm and think more clearly for a moment. I merely surmised that the process of dollar dumping would begin now (the story in the People’s Daily yesterday clearly got the attention of major investors and was commented on several times on the financial news channels), continue over the next 8 months and possibly culminate next Spring. I’m frankly baffled as to why you would take that to mean that there is a *magic* date in 2009 on which investors would hold hands and sell their dollars.

Having said that, stocktradr, since 75% of your portfolio is in gold — as is mine — I must conclude that you are just as “delusional” as I am. Welcome to the world of the whackos. Sit down, pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

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“Half the thread’s original post was reasonable doomsday scenario, which we should prepare for. The other half of the post was paranoid delusions.

When posting you should really censor out the alarmist fantasy garbage, then people will have more respect for the remaining, more rational content of your post.

I’m amused how you think use of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency will “cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009″ – AS IF on cue the millions of existing dollar holders (including countless nations’ foreign reserves) will all dump their dollars in the 2nd quarter of ’09.”

Stockstradr, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you read all of my post, I only asked that you not denigrate my opinion. Clearly you are incapable of doing that. So be it.

In any event, while we are “amusing” ourselves, I am entertained by your distinction between “reasonable doomsday scenarios” and “paranoid delusions”. I’m curious as to how you distinguish the two. What information in my original post was part of a “reasonable doomsday scenario” and what was “paranoid delusion”? Do you realize how…well, strange that sounds?

Where is the “fantasy garbage”? Please be specific in your response.

Is it unreasonable to acquire a food and supply buffer in anticipation of a systemic breakdown? Or should just eat and drink the gold in our portfolio? Why on earth do you even HAVE gold if you think the scenario I laid out was “delusional”?

Or perhaps it is the 2nd quarter 2009 timeframe that is “delusional”? It seems to me that when virtually all of the independent brokerages on Wall Street have disappeared in less than a year, the housing market is in free fall and the markets are gyrating 300-400 points in some sessions, we are no longer in a place where it is clear what is rational and what is “delusional”. And by the way, nowhere in my post did I indicate that all dollar holders would “on cue” dump all of their dollars on a particular date. So please drop the sarcasm and think more clearly for a moment. I merely surmised that the process of dollar dumping would begin now (the story in the People’s Daily yesterday clearly got the attention of major investors and was commented on several times on the financial news channels), continue over the next 8 months and possibly culminate next Spring. I’m frankly baffled as to why you would take that to mean that there is a *magic* date in 2009 on which investors would hold hands and sell their dollars.

Having said that, stocktradr, since 75% of your portfolio is in gold — as is mine — I must conclude that you are just as “delusional” as I am. Welcome to the world of the whackos. Sit down, pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

[partypup]

“Half the thread’s original post was reasonable doomsday scenario, which we should prepare for. The other half of the post was paranoid delusions.

When posting you should really censor out the alarmist fantasy garbage, then people will have more respect for the remaining, more rational content of your post.

I’m amused how you think use of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency will “cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009″ – AS IF on cue the millions of existing dollar holders (including countless nations’ foreign reserves) will all dump their dollars in the 2nd quarter of ’09.”

Stockstradr, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you read all of my post, I only asked that you not denigrate my opinion. Clearly you are incapable of doing that. So be it.

In any event, while we are “amusing” ourselves, I am entertained by your distinction between “reasonable doomsday scenarios” and “paranoid delusions”. I’m curious as to how you distinguish the two. What information in my original post was part of a “reasonable doomsday scenario” and what was “paranoid delusion”? Do you realize how…well, strange that sounds?

Where is the “fantasy garbage”? Please be specific in your response.

Is it unreasonable to acquire a food and supply buffer in anticipation of a systemic breakdown? Or should just eat and drink the gold in our portfolio? Why on earth do you even HAVE gold if you think the scenario I laid out was “delusional”?

Or perhaps it is the 2nd quarter 2009 timeframe that is “delusional”? It seems to me that when virtually all of the independent brokerages on Wall Street have disappeared in less than a year, the housing market is in free fall and the markets are gyrating 300-400 points in some sessions, we are no longer in a place where it is clear what is rational and what is “delusional”. And by the way, nowhere in my post did I indicate that all dollar holders would “on cue” dump all of their dollars on a particular date. So please drop the sarcasm and think more clearly for a moment. I merely surmised that the process of dollar dumping would begin now (the story in the People’s Daily yesterday clearly got the attention of major investors and was commented on several times on the financial news channels), continue over the next 8 months and possibly culminate next Spring. I’m frankly baffled as to why you would take that to mean that there is a *magic* date in 2009 on which investors would hold hands and sell their dollars.

Having said that, stocktradr, since 75% of your portfolio is in gold — as is mine — I must conclude that you are just as “delusional” as I am. Welcome to the world of the whackos. Sit down, pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

[partypup]

“Half the thread’s original post was reasonable doomsday scenario, which we should prepare for. The other half of the post was paranoid delusions.

When posting you should really censor out the alarmist fantasy garbage, then people will have more respect for the remaining, more rational content of your post.

I’m amused how you think use of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency will “cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009″ – AS IF on cue the millions of existing dollar holders (including countless nations’ foreign reserves) will all dump their dollars in the 2nd quarter of ’09.”

Stockstradr, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you read all of my post, I only asked that you not denigrate my opinion. Clearly you are incapable of doing that. So be it.

In any event, while we are “amusing” ourselves, I am entertained by your distinction between “reasonable doomsday scenarios” and “paranoid delusions”. I’m curious as to how you distinguish the two. What information in my original post was part of a “reasonable doomsday scenario” and what was “paranoid delusion”? Do you realize how…well, strange that sounds?

Where is the “fantasy garbage”? Please be specific in your response.

Is it unreasonable to acquire a food and supply buffer in anticipation of a systemic breakdown? Or should just eat and drink the gold in our portfolio? Why on earth do you even HAVE gold if you think the scenario I laid out was “delusional”?

Or perhaps it is the 2nd quarter 2009 timeframe that is “delusional”? It seems to me that when virtually all of the independent brokerages on Wall Street have disappeared in less than a year, the housing market is in free fall and the markets are gyrating 300-400 points in some sessions, we are no longer in a place where it is clear what is rational and what is “delusional”. And by the way, nowhere in my post did I indicate that all dollar holders would “on cue” dump all of their dollars on a particular date. So please drop the sarcasm and think more clearly for a moment. I merely surmised that the process of dollar dumping would begin now (the story in the People’s Daily yesterday clearly got the attention of major investors and was commented on several times on the financial news channels), continue over the next 8 months and possibly culminate next Spring. I’m frankly baffled as to why you would take that to mean that there is a *magic* date in 2009 on which investors would hold hands and sell their dollars.

Having said that, stocktradr, since 75% of your portfolio is in gold — as is mine — I must conclude that you are just as “delusional” as I am. Welcome to the world of the whackos. Sit down, pull up a chair and make yourself at home.

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