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Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]Regarding commutes.
At 10 am Wednesday October 10, here are the Google Maps “in traffic estimates for various places to downtown LA:
Valencia : 51 Minutes by car
48 minutes, plus connections (drive/walk to/from station) by transitCulver City : 21 minutes by car, 29 minutes plus connection (drive/walk to/from station) by light rail
Pasadena : 15 minutes by car[/quote]
bottom line is how flexible is work. If work is flexible with the hours, your list of possibilities really open up nicely.
if it is difficult to figure out prior to the start date, may have to consider renting first.
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]One other thing,
The city of Valencia, (like Temecula) is one of the few cities in SoCal running a budget surplus.[/quote]
I agree Shoveler, except some people are taking this discussion way too personally.
I personally like Valencia a lot. It’s beautiful. It is the perfect suburbia. It gets really hot, like IE hot, but then the Valley gets quite hot as well. It is what it is. but if you want a SD style suburbia, Valencia is as close as it gets.
I do think one has to be very careful committing to long commutes. And Valencia to downtown LA is considered a long commute, I don’t think we need a panel of expert to debate that.
And since the job is in downtown LA, I don’t think we should discount the entire LA basin plus the adj valleys and toss it out under the “urban wasteland” bucket. LA is a lot more urban, so expectations need to be different. that’s all.
Participant[quote=desmond]OC, you are guessing again and now coming up with another poor reason. You can actually drive to downtown LA in less than 45 minutes from Valencia with moderate traffic. If you take the Metrolink it is relaxing. Have you lived in Valencia and worked in LA county as a salesperson driving everyday over every neighborhood for the past 20 years? I don’t think so, please for once you are not the expert.[/quote]
I’ve worked in Sylmar and lived in Sherman Oaks and seen how bad it was for the folks going in the opposite direction on the 405, the 170, and the 5 during peak hours. I can see from the traffic update just right now that things have not changed for the better. 40 miles of driving in LA is very different than 40 miles of driving in SD.
As a sales person, sounds like your driving habit would be very different compared to a typical commuter.
No one is claiming expert opinion except you here. So your expert opinion says Valencia to DT is a breeze, who is to doubt expert opinions, right?
Participant[quote=desmond]A 1610 sf house for $650K? When was the last time you tried to drive down Moorpark Blvd? Do you realize you have apartments then homes then stores then stop lights then bumper to bumper traffice 24 hours a day? It’s crazy in the valley and very dangerous and I am no pussy. Please stop with guessing your not doing anybody any good. Culver City, I am sure it is fine but if you have the money, and alot more than a $650k budget, but again it is crowded and having “culture” is a code word for it sucks……..If you are raising kids Valencia is the place. My wife and I put our emphasis on raising our two kids, everybody knows that here, that is why I know what I am talking about.[/quote]
how do you raise kids when one parent is stuck with a 3 hour commute daily?
long commute is bad for one’s health, bad for marriages, and therefore bad for the family and for the kids.
if today his work is in the Valley, I would say hands down Valencia is the place to be.
I would not pull the “family first” card here. we all know in order to put “family first” you got to put your own health and happiness first. because if you are healthy and happy, then you’ll be able to give your family 100%. and while it is theoretically possible to do with an 8 hour work day + another 3 hour commute, it becomes extremely extremely difficult to keep up.
October 10, 2012 at 8:24 AM in reply to: As predicted, Fannie is beginning to sell blocks of assets in bulk to REITs #752383Participant[quote=EconProf]To both the above posters, I was careful to say (like any CYA economist) that the positives outweigh the negatives, for a net benefit to society. While the scenario portrayed is not perfect, lets remember the horrendus job the government does at holding assets like boarded-up houses. That’s what we need to get away from, and it takes a private-sector, profit-motivated investor to do it.
And, livinincali, if they get burned going this route, as you suggest they will, hey…that’s capitalism. At least its the private sector, not the taxpayer as at present, who loses.[/quote]+1
Participanthttp://www.redfin.com/CA/Toluca-Lake/10434-Moorpark-St-91602/home/5309169
here’s one that went pending within your price range.
drive to University City metro station is 5 min, 30 min metro red line to DT, plus time to the office. probably 45 minutes each way tops.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Culver-City/10821-Franklin-Ave-90230/home/6724785
here’s a pending one in Culver City.
5 min to the culver city metro station, 30 min to downtown. also 45 min each way tops.
another thing to remember, the metro is roughly one train every 10 minutes. whereas metrolink can go from 30-50 minutes between trains. your husband misses the train coming back and suddenly his commute is now 4 hours instead of 3.
ParticipantI second Culver City. Cheaper option compared to Santa Monica and yes, you are out of LAUSD. I’ve taken the Expo line myself and it is a great way to get into DT. Plus you just can’t beat the weather. South Pas has great schools but very pricey. What about Toluca Lake? It isn’t quite as bad as North Hollywood, not sure about schools though. He’ll be able to take the red line at Universal to DT. Another enclave to consider within the city would be Hancock Park.
Then there’s more working class Asian enclaves of Alhambra and Monterey Park, still very close to DT and because of the Asians, schools are good.
Traffic in LA is absolutely horrendous, so I would throw out Woodland Hills and Santa Clarita. Yes these are excellent communities with great schools, but the commute will get really old really quickly for your husband. Metrolink from Santa Clarita to union station is 1 hour. Keep in mind he would have to drive to the station, then somehow get to his office from union station, would not be surprised if you are looking at 1.5 hour each way. The same goes for North OC. With 2 kids, especially one with special needs, you can’t afford to have your husband waste 3 hours everyday on the commute.
Lastly, consider town homes instead of just SFR, you’ll have more opportunities open up for you.
Best of luck!
Participant[quote=ctr70]I loved Jack Welch (former CEO of GE) tweet on Twitter: “…can’t debate so gotta fix the job numbers”.
Obama got his tail kicked in the debate no question. Romney made him look clueless. Romney sounded so much more knowledgeable on economics and business. Very refreshing vs. the same old same old tax the rich wealth re-distribution message from the Obama admin. And I’m a guy who voted for Obama in 2008. Obama can’t get away as much with the “soaring rhetoric” like he did in 2008, b/c now there are 4 years of a record to point to.[/quote]
Here’s the thing, if the job numbers went down, Jack Welch’s quote would have been ‘”can’t debate AND can’t create jobs, just exactly what can this guy do???”
And if he won the debate and had low jobs numbers, the quote would have been “he’s all talk, what about doing something real like create some jobs”
And if he won the debate AND had the higher jobs numbers, the quote would have been “he cheated during the debate AND he is cheating on the jobs numbers”
and you would have probably cheered Jack Welch with each version of the quote…
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]ocr as much as I would like to fall into the trap that yes someone in obama admin gave a call to the bls and said pump the numbers by a tenth of a point or two, I don’t think that is the case. Conversely the other sort of behavior such as asking defense contractors not to issue pink slips does indeed trouble me. Also what I dont think is out of the realm of possibility is that various govt entities were told to hold off hiring until the late summer or early fall. Again, impossible to prove but if the gains seen by the bls stats were primarly in the govt sector, it would not surprise me at all.
Is that an outlandish presumption by me? (it may be, I am just curious if you think it is)
Sorry for being so suspicious. Just my nature.[/quote]
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t17.htm
The federal government added total of 6800 jobs out of the 114k.
Total added by various state governments were 13000.
But local governments and the postal service shed basically just as many.
Durable manufactoring lost 13000 total, but doesn’t seem like transportation manufactoring is losing less than others in the same category.
Participantlooked into examiner.com a bit more, nothing more but UT on steroid.
a fatter version of the UT.
there you go, squat250!
Participant[quote=spdrun]Is “misleading the public” listed as an offense anywhere in the criminal code? Unless the statistics were given or supported under oath, I’m not sure what the charge could be. And if it were a crime, 99% of politicians would be rotting in jail as I write this.
The only outcomes would possibly be Presidential impeachment (no point, a few weeks before the election) or Solis’ regisnation in disgrace.[/quote]
if the numbers mislead because it is preliminary, that would be one thing. just like the one month when new jobs numbers were ZERO, but the real data was 100k.
if the numbers are purposely falsified, for example, BLS employee are directed to add a few zeros to pat the figures, now you are looking at fraud and conspiracy. fraud and conspiracy are criminal, are they not?
you would have to have a conspiracy to falsify data at multiple levels in BLS. this type of conspiracy would be very difficult to keep under wraps, especially if there was a directive from Obama to Solis then down to the number crunchers.
evidence should be fairly easy to come by if we are truly working on there’s a top-down conspiracy to falsify and mislead.
we all have rights to question. but if the claim is this month’s numbers were purposely falsified by the obama campaign, that is a very serious charge.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]That is the point. However also consider the source. Case-Shiller data collection and presentation has no vested interest in the results of the data.
Furthermore BLS data presentation is not something I have ever believed, EVER, regardless of who is in office. Do you honestly believe our unemployment data peaked at 11 or 12% or whatever the BLS said it was a few years ago? Isn’t it important to distinguish between govt and private jobs? Isn’t it important to identify how many dropped from the workforce? Shouldn’t temp verses non temp jobs be identified?
What is troubling is that the reports are orthogonal to other events in the overall economy. Furthermore events that happen such as the administration “asking” defense contractors not to issue rif notices (even though they are required to do so by law) is quite troubling as well.
Personally I am troubled by this sort of behavior from the government. So in your eyes if I question it I am labelled as some sort of partisan hack?
The problem is when there is only one monolithic entity in charge of presenting the data, to me it is problematic. (See rating agencies telling us about AAA rated bonds that were backed by valuable real estate) Other examples include Barney frank telling us how strong the GSE’s were a few years back.
I don’t like and don’t believe any of the crap we are told by the govt or any of the associated entities. Didn’t under Bush and don’t under Obama.
Finally, I see nothing wrong with waiting a few months to release data if it proves to be more accurate.[/quote]
if your position is BLS data has always been wrong, then I have no problems with that.
but if the position is this month’s numbers are wrong because of deliberate attempt to mislead the public, then specific evidence of wrongdoing is needed and solis and obama need to be arrested as criminals.
it really is as simple as that.
Participant[quote=flu]Gotta wonder…
Brian or Brutus, Was this you?
Yo… Just because someone’s “fat” doesn’t give you a right to be fvcking asshole.[/quote]
Brian or Brutus would not apologize, so no, it isn’t him. 😉
as for fat, I agree, don’t use that term.
stick to overweight or obese. but ppl, if you are obese, please don’t say you are just overweight.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Why would the govt and associated reporting agencies ever not present accurate data to the public?[/quote]
that’s an excellent point. why bother releasing premature data in the first place.
if we can wait 3 months for case-shiller, we can certainly wait 3 months for more accurate jobs numbers.
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